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With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby God of War » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:57 pm

Those of you who have coil split/tap electronics on your guitars, particularly on the Jason Becker model, is there a hum when you switch from humbucker to single coil?
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby Doctor Turn » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:02 am

Any true single coil is going to give off the hum you're talking about. (I have a guitar with the same pickups and switching, and yes they hum when split).
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby God of War » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:23 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:Any true single coil is going to give off the hum you're talking about. (I have a guitar with the same pickups and switching, and yes they hum when split).

Does Kiesel offer coil tapping over split? Ive read coil tap mutes the hum but still gives you a single coil tone.
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby spudmunkey » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:19 pm

No, they do not.. Not that I've ever seen. Do pickups needed to be built the support that? If so, then I'm sure they never have.

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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby Doctor Turn » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:54 pm

Taps are usually done on single coils, not humbuckers.
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby God of War » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:32 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:Taps are usually done on single coils, not humbuckers.


Oh?

I'm still learning about the difference.

http://jbepickups.com/coil-tapping-vs-coil-splitting/

I read this today.
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby God of War » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:37 pm

When playing with a single coil I find the hum is stronger when on a heavy distortion setting/channel.

This is fine, single coils are more something I'd want to use for sparkling clean tones anyway and the hum isn't as loud I realized just then when playing my Ibanez.

I never played with clean tones much growing up, so I never really realized.

Maybe it's something I can live with.
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby Doctor Turn » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:06 pm

God of War wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:Taps are usually done on single coils, not humbuckers.


Oh?

I'm still learning about the difference.

http://jbepickups.com/coil-tapping-vs-coil-splitting/

I read this today.


Yeah, absolutely, regardless what that says. It's a means of drawing varying tone/level out of A Single Coil.

Seymour Duncan:

WHAT IS COIL TAPPING?

Posted on July 18, 2012 by Peter

Coil splitting is the practice of shutting off (or otherwise fading out) one coil of a humbucker, leaving behind a single coil for a brighter tone. Coil splitting is often confused with a single coil option known as coil tapping, in much the same way that the terms ‘vibrato bar’ and ‘tremolo bar’ are considered interchangeable even though only one is technically correct. So what is coil tapping, and how is it different to coil splitting?

Coil tapping is when a wire runs off of the pickup windings at a certain point, somewhere short of the full amount. This means you can install a switch to select between a single coil pickup’s full output or a lower output, giving you two distinct levels of power from one pickup.


The name says it all: coil splitting takes two coils and makes them one... Turning plural into singular. A coil tap is a way to activate a detour off the coils, like slamming a spout into the top of an oil can and creating an alternate route out of it aside from the large screw top. It's really just a way of turning on and off a part of the winds down the line of a bobbin... In a manner of simplistically speaking... To moderate the output. Although it is applied to individual bobbins within a humbucker when split, and occasional down the line of the whole thing (split and tapped? Sounds odd and requiring a plethora or switching), but it's primarily understood as a wire applied to a single bobbin.

Link to Duncan's page https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the- ... arning=yes

In any event, I've never seen Kiesel/Carvin offer taps on any of their pups.
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby God of War » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:05 am

I'm such a noob when it comes to effects.

So I bought a NS-2 by Boss, turned it on when single coil was engaged, hum gone.

Didn't know.

Noob.

Anyway, there's no need for me to worry about it now, noisy or noiseless, whichever gives me the better tone.
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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby DannyB819 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:40 am

If you're looking for a single coil-type sound out of a humbucker, especially a bridge humbucker, try going with a series/parallel switch or pot. It's not "true" single coil sound, but it's a close approximation that's still hum cancelling.

Pete Thorn, from whom I've stolen this method, has multiple videos talking about the virtues of bridge humbuckers in parallel.

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Re: With the JB200C, is there any hum when coil splitting?

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:10 pm

God of War wrote:I'm such a noob when it comes to effects.

So I bought a NS-2 by Boss, turned it on when single coil was engaged, hum gone.

Didn't know.

Noob.

Anyway, there's no need for me to worry about it now, noisy or noiseless, whichever gives me the better tone.


When the music starts, the hum is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. Even soft and intimate stuff, the hum just becomes part of the air and the high hat and ride cymbals just sort of take it with them. I'd never trade a true P90, for instance, for a P100 noiseless stack.
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