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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby customguitars87 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:34 am

I recommend mahogany. My V6X has a mahogany neck and body with a walnut top, the colors look beautiful together, weight is a-ok, and the guitar is exceptionally warm with great balance.

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:47 am

customguitars87 wrote:I recommend mahogany. My V6X has a mahogany neck and body with a walnut top, the colors look beautiful together, weight is a-ok, and the guitar is exceptionally warm with great balance.

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That looks great together!
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby robertkoa » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:17 am

In the past and here a lot of Players have reported that the Walnut Tops seem to warm up the Guitars (in addition to string saver saddles ).

Aside from wood unpredictability etc - do most of you with the Walnut tops feel that it mutes the highs in a good way , often ' warmer ' ?

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby wickid » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:16 am


I had not read that about walnut tops.
Well, I had a DC127, mahog neck and body, walnut top.
Bottom line, NO it did not warm anything up. Whether that was the neck-thru, or denseness of the walnut, etc. :?:
It was closer to my heavy, all maple DC135 - very fundamental. I did not really bond with it, and sold it.
Then again, I've been moving away from neck-thru to set or bolt neck over the years.
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:51 pm

robertkoa wrote:In the past and here a lot of Players have reported that the Walnut Tops seem to warm up the Guitars (in addition to string saver saddles ).

Aside from wood unpredictability etc - do most of you with the Walnut tops feel that it mutes the highs in a good way , often ' warmer ' ?


I have read and heard all sorts of things over the years, but I have not actually played a walnut top/or walnut body guitar yet.
If you google claro walnut guitar tone and you will get all sorts of opinions.
some say it’s slightly brighter with solid focused lows. others have said they have similar built guitars one with maple top one with claro top and say they are pretty similar yet slightly different. I have heard that string saver saddles work well at saving strings but they also hurt sustain. Is that true? I have no idea.

If we were to build 20 solid body guitars with different types of wood tops and all the other options were the same I suspect the relative hardness weight and density of the tops used would have a subtle effect on the overall resonance of the instrument and which frequencies were emphasized. The quandary is that even with super consistent production techniques is that wood is wood and no two pieces are exactly the same. So the body and neck woods are a variable even though they are the same type of wood. the choice of wood tops avaialable is pretty staggering also as are their relative desities and weights. Some are super hard and other closer to glueing cork to you guitar body, they will all vary from top to top just within their own wood type. My own opinion for solid bodies is buy what appeals to you visually top wise and buy what you trust body and neck wise. In the end I still believe the pickups will have way more effect than the top.
plain maple
flamed maple
quilted maple
burled maple
spalted maple
flamed koa
plain koa
claro walnut
walnut
mohogany
poplar burl
swamp ash
royal ebony
buckeye burl
zebra wood
zircote
cocobolo
alder
wenge
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby wickid » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:29 am

dbone wrote:plain maple
flamed maple
quilted maple
burled maple
spalted maple
...


Maple scampi, maple cocktail, butterfly maple, maple parmesian ... :wink: :mrgreen:
Bubba Gump maple.
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:41 am

Ziricote, cocobolo, alder, resin filled buckeye burl, wenge...

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:18 am

yeah that’s a pretty crazy long list.
What were the top options ten years ago?
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby Omsong » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:34 am

I had a claro walnut topped HF2 years back that definitely seemed more 'trebley' than the flame maple topped one that it replaced. But that is a floating top, chambered instrument. Not sure (I doubt) if a solid body would yield the same results.

It's too bad that Kiesel has cranked the prices for fancy top woods sky high from where they were only a couple of years ago. I love the look of claro-walnut, but I'm not going to add $350 to the price of a build for something that is, for the most part, cosmetic appearance. Especially in a small bodied, headless model that has a large bevel that chops away a significant portion of that expensive, fancy top - and one that only requires a 1/2" (or so) laminate to begin with. Heck, even a plain walnut top is $200. Maybe it's just a realistic reflection in the actual cost of raw, high quality furniture woods in this crazy day and age. :think:
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby robertkoa » Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:53 am

SilkyHotLicks wrote:
dbone wrote:Do you recall the weight on the SH675?

It's 7.8 lbs.


Unplugged - did the Walnut seem to mute the top end in a nice deep way ?


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