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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby GuitFiddle » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:09 pm

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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby GuitFiddle » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:13 pm

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laxu wrote:So what exactly are the Thorium and Beryllium pickups? How do they differ from Lithiums?


As far as I know that is asking what is the difference between a snipe, a unicorn, and an elephant. The first two are just mystical legends so far. I think they are still in development.


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I have to admit I think it's kind of a cool idea to take names from the periodic table. Better than mysterious letter-and-number combos that are like German cars, or weird attempts at creative names that just sound bizarre.
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby Dometalican » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:01 am

laxu wrote:So what exactly are the Thorium and Beryllium pickups? How do they differ from Lithiums?


I know for a fact that the Beryllium pickups were announced but NOTHING was shared about them. Here's hoping that this is the new P-90 pickup(s) the vintage players here have been begging for! :woot: :woot:

Theorium pickups were rumored to be darker, higher-output-sounding Lithiums (which would offset the good amount of brightness the Lithiums have). I think these pickups would work more for the progressive, mellow-sounding crowd. Too bad that might only be describing the bridge pickup...what's more exciting is the fact that this may be another pickup choice for 7-string, 8-string, and Multiscale guitars.

If the Lithiums are like the Jazz/JB pickups, then the Theoriums hopefully will be like the PAF/Super Distortion or Evo neck/Evo 2 combo. IDK, I could be weird for wanting that...lol.
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby UnexplodedCow » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:47 am

The whole electronics debate - nothing wrong with what Kiesel uses. Their wires are fine, switches are good, capacitors and pots are well within specification. The only possible gripe I have is with their panel jacks wearing out a little quickly, but are still easily replaced.

I'd love to hear what the new pickups sound like. I do wonder what their aim is with the pickups.

The C series - supposed to be a more classic design (and I agree that it pretty much covers that).
The M series - Marketed as the "modern," choice, and a fan favorite around here. The original Carvin pickup line.
Lithium series - I'm not sure how they're marketed, or if they're combating negative views on their pickups. Maybe the super modern choice (though they will do other styles).

The P90 shape is a little niche, and soapbars, lipsticks, gold foils all really fall down that rabbit hole.
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:26 pm

On today's Facebook Live video, Jeff confirmed that Mark's Beryllium pickups should be a NAMM release.

Also interestingly, someone asked if they would be offered in a "covered" version, and if I remember right, he said, "No comment"....which isn't a "no"! I think it would be cool to have KB12 pickups (Kiesel Beryllium) humbuckers available both ways, rather than having a covered version treated as a different model, like they did with the C22 and S22 (even though official word (or at least off-the-cuff word from someone official) was that the S22 were *based* on the C22, but slightly differently-voiced).

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Postby gumbynotpokey » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:02 pm

........for the record (no pun intended), I thought it was "Thorium". Or do I err?
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:59 pm

Don't blame me, I didn't make the thread. :lol: The thorium pickups are Jeff's "metal"pickups. The beryllium are Mark's more vintage-voiced pickups.

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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby texastoast » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:57 am

Well, call me a cynic, But this thread is over a year old and still almost there.

Bigfoot, unicorns and snipes! How long does it take a former pickup company to design a pickup?

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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby Doctor Turn » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:44 am

I know. I wondered the same thing about the length of time, but chalked it up to the move, new product development, intellectual property snags between the Carvin co and the guitars-only Kiesel, etc, taking up a lot of effort.

They really need that vintage / PAF style pickup. Continuing to put Lithiums in everything can only work so much and go so far, especially in the SH series of guitars and LP style guitars with experienced players. (And this is regardless of the opinions over how they sound. Even Lundgren-- who apparently inspired Jeff via the M6/M7 pickup-- makes and sells plenty of other pickups, with different voices and mag/coil arrangements.)
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Postby ElfDude » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:07 am

Coming this NAMM, eh?

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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby gumbynotpokey » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:24 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:I know. I wondered the same thing about the length of time, but chalked it up to the move, new product development, intellectual property snags between the Carvin co and the guitars-only Kiesel, etc, taking up a lot of effort.

They really need that vintage / PAF style pickup.


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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby arahobob » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:19 pm

texastoast wrote:Well, call me a cynic, But this thread is over a year old and still almost there.

Bigfoot, unicorns and snipes! How long does it take a former pickup company to design a pickup?


They never should have announced them until they were ready to release.
Usally jeff is on point with these big releases. Multiscale was a huge surprise.

The new thoriums? Never even should've dropped the name.
He created buzz and then ruined it.
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby Doctor Turn » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:39 pm

Creating excitement and anticipation is one thing. This is like becoming YEARS...
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby skully13a » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:45 pm

A snipe is real. They are birds. Google Wilson's snipe.
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:24 pm

It's also what happens to a board when sent through a not-totally-perfectly set-up wood planer: snipe. But I suppose that still doesn't make it an animal. :lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_(wood_machining)

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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby amon » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:40 pm

If they don't have a covered pickup line, they're ceding a big chunk of their CS sales to aftermarket pickups.

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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby texastoast » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:38 am

skully13a wrote:A snipe is real. They are birds. Google Wilson's snipe.


If you wish to be that way there are over twenty species of snipe. No google necessary. It is also what you call a US Navy engineer. But I was referring to a snipe hunt.

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Postby Sparky131 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:43 am

Dometalican wrote:If the Lithiums are like the Jazz/JB pickups, then the Theoriums hopefully will be like the PAF/Super Distortion or Evo neck/Evo 2 combo. IDK, I could be weird for wanting that...lol.


Now you have me wondering. I might have to keep an eye on these whenever they're released.
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Re: Happy to report about the Theorium/Beryllium pickups

Postby arahobob » Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:55 am

Sparky131 wrote:
Dometalican wrote:If the Lithiums are like the Jazz/JB pickups, then the Theoriums hopefully will be like the PAF/Super Distortion or Evo neck/Evo 2 combo. IDK, I could be weird for wanting that...lol.


Now you have me wondering. I might have to keep an eye on these whenever they're released.


I like the classic jazz/jb combo a lot.
IMHO the lithiums sounded absolutely nothing like them. Not even close. Unusable in any of my setups where the duncans work just fine.
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Postby Sparky131 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:11 am

arahobob wrote:
Sparky131 wrote:
Dometalican wrote:If the Lithiums are like the Jazz/JB pickups, then the Theoriums hopefully will be like the PAF/Super Distortion or Evo neck/Evo 2 combo. IDK, I could be weird for wanting that...lol.


Now you have me wondering. I might have to keep an eye on these whenever they're released.


I like the classic jazz/jb combo a lot.
IMHO the lithiums sounded absolutely nothing like them. Not even close. Unusable in any of my setups where the duncans work just fine.


I have them in one of my 127's. I like them, but my other has EMG's. Since that's what I'm comparing to, I can say I like the Lithiums better. :lol:
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