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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:07 am

I get what you mean about the overall tone when plugged in. I know i've heard piezo-equipped Carvins from years past through electric guitar amps, but I don't actually know if i've actually heard something like the DC400 through an acoustic amp or PA. I may have, but I don't remember. :think: I know for sure I haven't heard their newer one-knob-one-mini-switch piezo system, like what you can get on the Aries, CT6, etc through anything other than an electric guitar amp, though.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:56 am

Thinking about maybe a three piece body with thin black sandwich layer between Spuce and Mahogany. Possibly royal ebony board or ebony Less variation
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:05 am

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby UnexplodedCow » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:24 pm

spudmunkey wrote:To me, I'm less interested in how it compares to a fuller-sized acoustic while plugged in, and more curious about how it compares to any of the solid body models with the piezo saddles and their other piezo electronics system, and how it compares to solid body electric unplugged in the same room, to see if there's any real benefits over either. :think:


I watched the main video, plus the other one linked, and definitely think it's not a bad showing.

Downside: the amount of compression makes the hand thumps entirely too audible, and annoying. The "quack" is very present, but clear, and was probably chosen for the style of play, which is more of a modern taste, so that could be EQ or player related. But the overall sonic spectrum was there (I listened through a set of cheap EKG earbuds and set on as high def as allowed).

I think it has a little less "quack" than the older Fishman Wilkinson setup (I own a DC127T with that option). I also think it compares favorably to a Schecter C1E/A I have that is loaded with a Graphtech Ghost system. The Graphtech is insanely bright/quacky. The Fishman'd Carvin (2007 vintage) is quite convincing compared to even current lower-end piezo full-side acoustics (and definitely better than older 90s stuff I've owned).

I think the metal bridge/individual saddle setup compares favorably to the older ones, and is a better comparison vs. the AE series, as those have a ribbon piezo, and single plastic/tusq saddle. I have no complaints, and the body shape looks very comfy to play as an acoustic. The whole reason I switched to a solidbody piezo/combo setup was for arm bevels and comfort, despite it not quite having the same type of sustain as a true acoustic.

I would prefer the Vader/Osiris shape in a "hollowbody," but that's just me.

Also, good luck losing a pick in that thing; it's pretty much like the old-school labyrinth puzzles. Still a cool idea; not sure I'd buy one unless I *really* wanted a travel style acoustic, but with lacking magnetic pickups kind of legs the idea.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:39 pm

Thanks for the insight!

UnexplodedCow wrote:Also, good luck losing a pick in that thing; it's pretty much like the old-school labyrinth puzzles.


Anything's better than the NS1, though. Good thing they don't have a sound hole. I'd need to keep this photo handy as a "map" for which way you'd need to flip the guitar end-over-end to get it back out. Ha!
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:44 pm

I would like to hear a head to head between a spruce or red cedar top model and any of the highly figured tops in reguards to the sound.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby ToneWood » Thu May 03, 2018 12:35 pm

amon wrote:The problem this model highlights for the other Kiesels acoustics is the lack of any treatment for the rosette. The gaping cutout with no decoration is just lazy.


I like the no-rosette look. JMO. There are a lot of very nice high-quality rosette decals/stickers you can get if you really want that look.

For example, https://www.inlaystickers.com/products/risette-santafe

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby ToneWood » Thu May 03, 2018 12:37 pm

Do we know what the lower bout width is?

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby Doctor Turn » Thu May 03, 2018 1:24 pm

I don't even see the guitar in the website yet, let alone a hyperspecific measurement like that. You'd best off to call on that one, or maybe email Mike Jones or Chris.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Thu May 03, 2018 1:29 pm

It's been said that the body is the same as the original version, in case that helps.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Fri May 04, 2018 7:51 am

Hear hear all in favor of a Zeucoustic web page say Aye :shock: :woot:
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby Doctor Turn » Fri May 04, 2018 7:58 am

Zeucoustic. I like that.. :mrgreen:
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby killa j » Fri May 04, 2018 9:40 am

It really is the longest I’ve seen from a new model reveal to it being on the website

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Fri May 04, 2018 10:18 am

The Solo took a good long time, too. As did the multiscale SCB.

In the past, they wouldn't even mention a new model until they sent out the completed announcement email. Now, Jeff likes to tease things on social media long before all the ducks are in a row. A blessing and a curse. On this model, the only one in existence when jeff showed it was Jeff's own first completed one. None of the others were even finished being built yet. :lol:

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby rzbk777 » Sun May 06, 2018 7:26 am

I'm not gonna lie, I kind of want one, don't need one, but....
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dvkerner » Wed May 09, 2018 7:16 pm

Could any of you Zeus owners please tell me how many inches it is from the 19th fret to the bridge saddles, and how many inches are between the pickups?

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Wed May 09, 2018 8:48 pm

There are no pickups on this model... Unless you count the piezo saddles.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby ToneWood » Thu May 10, 2018 8:05 am

Doctor Turn wrote:I don't even see the guitar in the website yet, let alone a hyperspecific measurement like that. You'd best off to call on that one, or maybe email Mike Jones or Chris.


I don't think the body width (size) is that hyper-specific. Is it ~ 13? 14? 15?

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby ToneWood » Thu May 10, 2018 9:07 am

spudmunkey wrote:It's been said that the body is the same as the original version, in case that helps.


Ah, so the Zeus electric is 12" wide. Wow, seems small.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Thu May 10, 2018 9:33 am

It's only 1/2" narrower than an Aries.

The overall width isn't much different than an SCB:
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