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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:59 am

Zeus Acoustic, multiscale 7 with...royal ebony top, maybe?
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:38 am

Nice looking guitar. Looking forward to hearing the plugged in demo.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:21 pm

Agreed. I'm sure it'll sound at least as good as the piezo in the electrics, and only demos will tell if it'll sound as good as the AC375's system. I really hope they get ahold of an amp meant for it. They won't do the model any favors by plugging it into an electric guitar amplifier, like they sometimes do in the "guitar of the week" videos, for guitars with the piezo. I know it's build to do it, but doesn't show it in its best light.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:30 pm

In today's factory walk-through I think they had 4-5 with finished bodies. One 6M with a cedar top, one 8M with some sort of aquaburst, the 7M with the royal ebony top, and I think one or two more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:41 pm

spudmunkey wrote:Zeus Acoustic, multiscale 7 with...royal ebony top, maybe?
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Looks like royal or macassar mated with black limba to produce limbony.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:57 pm

Ha, indeed. I believe Jeff confirmed that it's royal ebony on today's "pick your top Tuesday" video.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:47 pm

Jeff says the guitar will ship with 11s. "Accustic electric strings", whatever that means.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:32 am

I have been using my new Mesa Rosette 300 and a TC electronic Play Acoustic together with my AC275 and AC375 and it sounds real nice.
Something “like” that would be cool for the showroom. Sounds like they are wrapping up the recorded plugged in video so we should have something to hear soon.

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:46 pm

Zeus acoustic plugged in demo is up on Kiesel facebook
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby kdawg » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:35 am

ElfDude wrote:Y'know... I really don't like the look of the Zeus electrics.
Someone here called it the beluga whale hump on top, and I had to agree.
Just doesn't work for me.

But for some reason, this acoustic-electric version of it looks like it'd be a whole lot of fun!
Don't know why, but I like it!
:lol:



I'm with you. I don't like the electric version at all but instantly liked the A/E version at first glance. Weird how these things can be...

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:43 am

dbone wrote:Zeus acoustic plugged in demo is up on Kiesel facebook


The yoo toobz, too. Click to play:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNp0qWjwLqc

I will say that it's got a pretty pronounced piezo "quack". :think:

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:27 am

did you compare it to JR Taylor’s video.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:57 am

I did, actually. And while not apples-to-apples, to all 4 of my plugged in electric acoustics (live in the room, though, not in a recording). And this is purely just first impressions of one video. It seemed like the Zeus is more sensitive somehow, and could more easily jump into "unpleasant" with too-heavy of a hand. :think:

But again, there are so many aspects of why I might be hearing it that way, that my perception possibly isn't reality. :lol:
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby Doctor Turn » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:27 am

Yeah, I thought I might like this because I'm in the market for a new acoustic, and eventually will grab one.

But this falls into that Piezo bag of all high end skwinky strum overtaking pretty much any mid range or low end that the guitar might be trying (weakly) to put out. It's all strum and fret noise, with a smidge of string tone (which I must compliment it, sustains much longer than I'd imagine... That is, if there is no compression on the track squishing the sound.)

I can hear right away that it's a really well constructed instrument, but there's just no interplay between the body and any sound board. It's just a category of instrument that I've never had any Interest in.

To me it's a verrrrrrry 1980's sound. Used to hear and see that sort of atrophied acoustic a lot back then, and to a large degree it's a sound that was made acceptable by those dishback Ovation guitars from the seventies. Listen to Nancy Wilson in Crazy On You live, that typical heavily strummed acoustic sound in a rock band that's playing full on around her, crushing everything she's playing except the presence and hi end on her signal. These instruments sort of take that end result as a starting point.

It's an instrument sound and class all it's own. I can hear that it's got a great neck, just that the rest of it isn't pushing out an awful lot to work with.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:35 am

To me, I'm less interested in how it compares to a fuller-sized acoustic while plugged in, and more curious about how it compares to any of the solid body models with the piezo saddles and their other piezo electronics system, and how it compares to solid body electric unplugged in the same room, to see if there's any real benefits over either. :think:

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby dbone » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:50 am

To my ears overall I thought the demo sounded pretty darn good. However I do know what your saying though, are the passages they selected and played chosen because that’s what sounds best on a instrument like this, well in all fairness to Kiesel that is likely true. In my experience when you start banging out strumming chords loudly on guitars like this that’s where they start getting less ear friendly. I will likely get one I’m just trying to decide what woods at this point. Might just stick with Spruce and Mahogany. But that Royal ebony is not making things any easier.
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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:54 am

I'm still interested in it too. :)

Actually, yesterday, they had a video that i can't seem to find...they had Sims Cashion play a multiscale 8 (though he didn't play the lower two strings). In that video, I heard a bit more of the piezo quack, and some boomy-thumpiness than in this video. :think:

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Re: Zeus Acoustic Electric

Postby Doctor Turn » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:16 am

spudmunkey wrote:To me, I'm less interested in how it compares to a fuller-sized acoustic while plugged in, and more curious about how it compares to any of the solid body models with the piezo saddles and their other piezo electronics system, and how it compares to solid body electric unplugged in the same room, to see if there's any real benefits over either. :think:


I think when played by itself, ie the rest of the band lays back (or a one or two person gig) it would give more depth and air versus a solid body w Piezo. It seems to have more air and natural reverb of an acoustic, vs a sold body w saddles.

That's the only use I see for an instrument like this, since in the studio I can't see any reason not to pick up a legit acoustic.. unless you specifically want that thinned out sound. But if you move to something like one of the Carvin Kiesel semi hollows, w Piezo, I'd say very likely minimal difference.

Again, not my class of Instrument so I'm nobody to listen to on the distinction between these.
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