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Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby Sentinel » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:42 pm

What are the translucent finishes that look good on alder? From what I've seen, Blueburst on alder does not look good to me. On the other hand, Greenburst looks fantastic. I'm also interested in some other Trans Blue besides Blueburst, but not sure what would actually look good on alder. My thought right now is that Trans Pearl Blue on alder may be nice, but I haven't found any pics of it to know one way or the other. Most pics are of Ash, flamed or quilted maple. I haven't found many pics of Trans finishes on alder period, so it's making things tough. Any help, advice, and pics will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby HarlowTheFish » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:20 am

If you go to the gallery at https://www.kieselguitars.com/guitargallery/, you can sort by "Top Wood" to see pretty much all the finishes available on Alder. You can also sort by specific finishes for examples if you have some idea of what you want.

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:24 am

What do you think about the color that is used for the middle of Aqua burst? Since it is such a popular color, and the standard wood on most models for the back of the body is all there, you might be able to find some new guitar Day posts around where someone has something like a DC 600 in aqua burst, in the standard Woods.

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby dbone » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:14 am

I would say Alder is relatively dark conpaired to Ash bodies in general.
I think Ash makes a better translucent finish “canvas”.
Alder makes a great wood for painted bodies.
All that being said any translucent will work but expect the outcome to be a little subdued and darker than ash at least.

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:21 am

dbone wrote:Alder makes a great wood for painted bodies.


I'd add that Alder is also great for natural tones like honeyburst, sunset burst, etc. Basically browns and warmer colors. I think because it's color is so naturally warm, that when you try to make it go "cool", it does so kicking and screaming, and ends up dark.

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby dbone » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:24 am

spudmunkey wrote:
dbone wrote:Alder makes a great wood for painted bodies.


I'd add that Alder is also great for natural tones like honeyburst, sunset burst, etc. Basically browns and warmer colors. I think because it's color is so naturally warm, that when you try to make it go "cool", it does so kicking and screaming, and ends up dark.


absolutely, well said, kicking and screaming. yes go warm or go else ware
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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby Sentinel » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:33 am

HarlowTheFish wrote:If you go to the gallery at https://www.kieselguitars.com/guitargallery/, you can sort by "Top Wood" to see pretty much all the finishes available on Alder. You can also sort by specific finishes for examples if you have some idea of what you want.

I wish that were true, but sadly it isn't. If you go to the gallery and select alder as the top wood, you get pretty much everything except alder as a top wood, regardless of finish chosen, or even when none is specified.

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby marzzz » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:40 pm

I have an Osiris with Translucent Teal on plain alder, and really love how it came out. It seemed like Kiesel took the time to select some nice wood:

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby Sentinel » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:00 am

marzzz wrote:I have an Osiris with Translucent Teal on plain alder, and really love how it came out. It seemed like Kiesel took the time to select some nice wood:


Oh nice! That does look good, thanks for sharing!

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby Handy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:03 pm

Its not the most unique finish in the world but good old classic sunburst looks great on alder. I've got a really nice looking Alder / classic sunburst JB5 I got last fall.

I agree that some of the non-burst translucent finishes can look a bit boring over alder's more subtle grain pattern

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby dbone » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:20 pm

Ok that green really does look good so I retract my previous statement.
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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby skully13a » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:50 pm

Alder is a good looking wood. I think it's like any wood, it's about the piece.
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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby UnexplodedCow » Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:23 pm

spudmunkey wrote:
dbone wrote:Alder makes a great wood for painted bodies.


I'd add that Alder is also great for natural tones like honeyburst, sunset burst, etc. Basically browns and warmer colors. I think because it's color is so naturally warm, that when you try to make it go "cool", it does so kicking and screaming, and ends up dark.


On a tangent, mahogany is really good for doing that, too. In the case of teal, it turns out looking almost seasick green/orange, which is precisely what happened on my Vader. NO regrets on that guitar, though. It made the "nightburst" look like an actual night sky I've seen.
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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby amispy » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:31 pm

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby Sentinel » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:42 pm



Thanks for all the links; much appreciated!

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Re: Translucent Finishes on Alder

Postby Bob C » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:02 am

dbone wrote:I would say Alder is relatively dark conpaired to Ash bodies in general.
I think Ash makes a better translucent finish “canvas”.
Alder makes a great wood for painted bodies.
All that being said any translucent will work but expect the outcome to be a little subdued and darker than ash at least.

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I concur. I think this is Fender's philosophy too, as they do or did usually use alder on their solid finish guitars.

That said, I have an Aries bass with alder body and very nice Nightburst finish. Good grain and not too dark. I also have a clear finish LB70 with flame maple top and fantastic alder back that it's a shame to not show off.


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