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NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Praiser » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:19 pm

Received this exactly 8 weeks after it was ordered.
Searched high and low for a 5 string Fretless with 19mm spacing and a 34in scale.
Very limited offerings. To be able to order a (semi) custom bass made in the US shipped with a case for under $1350 is really impressive.
For me nothing else comes close.

Was going for a basic clean working instrument so no real bling on this one.
Standard woods are Alder body, Maple neck, and Ebony board.
Was hoping for a mostly black finger board but didn't spring for the upgrade.
Feel fortunate with the one I got.

Nightburst with black burst edge under satin finish.
In bright light it has more teal color than I was expecting.
In normal light it is pretty dark with a subtle appearance which is what I was going for.
Pics are a combination of sunlight and shade to show the difference.

Playability is better than any of my others, and that's saying something!
Tons of tonal options with these pups and preamp.
Really powerful tone shaping capabilities but a great passive voice to boot.
Probably the most lively, resonant bass I have. Something special about this one.

Looking forward to getting to know it for years to come.
Thanks to all of the Kiesel craftsmen and women.
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby gumbynotpokey » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:20 pm

WOW, WOW, WOW!

Ok, John, I'm super happy for you. Seriously.

I JUST NEED TO SAY that we really want tone samples one way or the other. You just HAVE to record samples for us.

I dig the board on this bass. Awesome reality to that board.

OK, so how's the voice on this thing? Gosh I want to hear it!



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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Koala » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:21 pm

That is sweeeet! 8)
The teal part of the aquaburst really pops on the maple.
And the Xccelerator X54 headstock is wicked as always. It's gotta be my favourite headstock Kiesel offers. LOL :lol:
Enjoy the new bass bro!
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby skully13a » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:37 am

Wow, man. :shock: That's an amazing bass!
Nicely done. :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Catman10 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:51 am

That's absolutely gorgeous!! :applause: Big congrats to you!

I suppose you can attribute that "teal" kind of look from the yellow tint of the alder interacting with the aqua of the night burst color scheme. Still beautiful, though! :coolpics:

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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Treadplatedual » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:53 pm

skully13a wrote:Wow, man. :shock: That's an amazing bass!
Nicely done. :applause: :applause: :applause:

Couldn't agree more :) congrats!
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby MikeBass » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:41 pm

Now that's a nice bass! Can't beat an unlined fretless board :applause:
So cool, congrats and enjoy :rockon:
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Greg Emm » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:09 pm

What a gorgeous instrument! :applause:

Having had a month to play this beauty, has it maintained its allure for you? What about it do you find particularly special?

It's great to see someone select an Xccelerator ... I see them as the sleeper model of the Kiesel bass line. :mrgreen:

Thanks for this thread. Your new bass is astonishingly beautiful.

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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Praiser » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:51 am

Thanks or the kind words, all. I really do appreciate it!

I've liked this model since it was introduced, and it got down to this or an Aries. The features, build style, price and weight all pointed me towards the X54. It was the right choice for me on this one, no doubt in my mind.
Thanks for the bump, too, Greg.

Brian, don't hold your breath on sound samples from me. Just too far out of my comfort zone.
If anything, I'd consider sending you something as a PM, but even that's a stretch. lol, sorry.

Yes, I'm still loving this bass for 3 specific reasons....

1. Playability is amazingly good with super low action, no buzzing, and LOT'S of that fretless muah.
A very vocal type of quality to it which I really dig.

2. The resonance is almost too high. For example, when I use my fingers on my Right hand to mute a note, it will often result in a secondary tone that is almost harmonic in character. The A and D strings seem to be especially susceptible to this. I've really got to focus and just barely touch the string to stop it so as to avoid this. My "technique" has to be improved when I play this bass as compared to my others. The strings seem to be a light gauge of rounds and that could be affecting both playability and resonance, in a good way.

3. Tonal options are fantastic and widely varied. The passive voice is great, even with no tone knob. Volume and blend are plenty to find several fine sounds. Add in the preamp, and you can really do some exploring. SO much adjustability range is available in the Low, Mid, and Hi frequencies that it's doubtful I'll ever utilize the full range of what it can do. The good news is that minor adjustments make significant changes to the underlying excellent sounds it produces.

It has been living on the stand since I got it, so as to help motivate me to go pick it up and play, even if for just a little while. Life's been busy since it arrived, so I've not spent as much time on it as I'd like, but she ain't going anywhere. A keeper for sure!

Thanks again, everyone!
John

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PB100, PB200 (With BX500 head and 1x15 ext Cab)
XP1000L, LM153s, LS1801A
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:49 am

Praiser wrote:Thanks or the kind words, all. I really do appreciate it!

I've liked this model since it was introduced, and it got down to this or an Aries. The features, build style, price and weight all pointed me towards the X54. It was the right choice for me on this one, no doubt in my mind.
Thanks for the bump, too, Greg.

Brian, don't hold your breath on sound samples from me. Just too far out of my comfort zone.
If anything, I'd consider sending you something as a PM, but even that's a stretch. lol, sorry.

Yes, I'm still loving this bass for 3 specific reasons....

1. Playability is amazingly good with super low action, no buzzing, and LOT'S of that fretless muah.
A very vocal type of quality to it which I really dig.

2. The resonance is almost too high. For example, when I use my fingers on my Right hand to mute a note, it will often result in a secondary tone that is almost harmonic in character. The A and D strings seem to be especially susceptible to this. I've really got to focus and just barely touch the string to stop it so as to avoid this. My "technique" has to be improved when I play this bass as compared to my others. The strings seem to be a light gauge of rounds and that could be affecting both playability and resonance, in a good way.

3. Tonal options are fantastic and widely varied. The passive voice is great, even with no tone knob. Volume and blend are plenty to find several fine sounds. Add in the preamp, and you can really do some exploring. SO much adjustability range is available in the Low, Mid, and Hi frequencies that it's doubtful I'll ever utilize the full range of what it can do. The good news is that minor adjustments make significant changes to the underlying excellent sounds it produces.

It has been living on the stand since I got it, so as to help motivate me to go pick it up and play, even if for just a little while. Life's been busy since it arrived, so I've not spent as much time on it as I'd like, but she ain't going anywhere. A keeper for sure!

Thanks again, everyone!


No sweat on a sample.

John, I'll tell you this: on fretless I fight the note BLOOM more than intonation. It's just SO, SO expressive and the voice so open and complex. Right? :mrgreen:
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Praiser » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:01 am

gumbynotpokey wrote:
No sweat on a sample.

John, I'll tell you this: on fretless I fight the note BLOOM more than intonation. It's just SO, SO expressive and the voice so open and complex. Right? :mrgreen:


Note BLOOM is the perfect term for the tonal character of fretless, and yes, it can be a strange phenomena to work with.
It really is a very vocal type of sound which is what makes it so very expressive as you said.
I just love it and the challenge of attempting to learn a new way of playing.
John

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PB100, PB200 (With BX500 head and 1x15 ext Cab)
XP1000L, LM153s, LS1801A
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby gumbynotpokey » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:45 pm

Praiser wrote:
gumbynotpokey wrote:
No sweat on a sample.

John, I'll tell you this: on fretless I fight the note BLOOM more than intonation. It's just SO, SO expressive and the voice so open and complex. Right? :mrgreen:


Note BLOOM is the perfect term for the tonal character of fretless, and yes, it can be a strange phenomena to work with.
It really is a very vocal type of sound which is what makes it so very expressive as you said.
I just love it and the challenge of attempting to learn a new way of playing.


I read "bloom" somewhere online. The idea was that with pick or fingers the bassist has ATTACK that is maximal at the moment of contact, and then the note decays. But with fretless, the note starts out and then it rises in dynamics (it blooms) after it is struck, hits the peak, then decays. The time to reach the top of the note bloom can be surprisingly long to the ear of those that have spent years on fretted, and never played fretless before.
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Re: NBD X54 Fretless

Postby Bass Viking » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:46 pm

Congratulations Praiser, the Xccelerators are amazing instruments. I own the fretted version and have been really impressed with it, both for the playability and the tone.

I have videos on YouTube if anyone is interested. Haven't found any fretless videos though.


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