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Postby wickid » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:35 am


NeBD = New eBolt Day!

For the want of a SD lil '59 in the neck of a Bolt I procured this re-bay'd Carvin Bolt.
Not too bad at $450, but then another almost $300 for p/ups and hardware I planned
to change out - since I cant leave anything well enough alone. I had thought about a
new Bolt, or even a Bolt kit, but options would've put either in the $1k to $1500 range.
A bit steep for a p/up experiment.

So this -

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Plus (some of) this -
(Black hardware, pickguard, M22T, SD lil '59n...)

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equals this -

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Some story -
(This came into the world, well adopted, kicking and screaming ...)

This was a re-bay'd Bolt by somebody in SoCal. I don't mean to niggle, especially since I was going to hack into this thing anyway, and the price was OK. But as typical some details weren't accurate (being a Carvinite, we recognize these things), but some of it was under the hood, so no fault, really.
It came with dings, but pix of them were supplied in the listing. Doesn't matter because I added my own anyway.
It listed as "working" condition. The coil tap was intermittent, and cut out occasionally in HB mode. I rewired it anyway, and used the other side of the mini switch and it appears to be OK.
It listed as a C22B, but when I popped the hood, it turned out to be not only a C22T (label on the p/up), but an old 3-lead (no green tap) p/up. P/up swap looming anyway.

On the plus side, a previous owner replaced the normal tuners with Sperzels. Unfortunately, this turned out to be an "oh ****" moment. I picked up a black set of sperzels from the bay, along with black hardware from Kiesel. When I removed the chrome tuners, the guide pin, which is supposed to go about 1/16"+ into the body, popped out of 5 of the tuners and were stuck in the headstock!!! :shock: :evil: Not only stuck, but FLUSH with the headstock. I have NO IDEA how that can even happen??? And this was the first thing I attempted to change out.
How do I get those OUT?!?! I tried an EZout type of extractor (or GrabIt?). My 2nd use of that and neither one worked. I tried shoving items in the pins - small screw drivers, a nail, ... and pry the pins out. NOPE! Wouldn't grab. The nail came the closest as it grabbed, but using the claw end of the hammer pulled the nail w/o the pin, still!!

Oh yeah, yes, I was pounding a nail into the headstock with a small hammer!!! Somethings not right when it comes to that.
Had to go all caveman on this thing - took almost all day. Nothing was working.
So ... After trial-fitting the new tuners, I decide to go the other way, and pound those pins DEEPER into the headstock with hammer and nail. (I dont even have any nails around, found some around the yard since I had my roof done a few years ago.) I was so sure it would split - pounded my hand a few good times too. But y'know what - it worked - FINALLY!!! No splits in the wood.

Putting the jack plate in, I managed to scratch up the top near the top screw. D'oh!!! That was just stoopud. :oops:

The bridge took a while to set the string height and intonation. I used my purple Bolt as a guide for measurements.

Now, the pickguard. I did not like the ebay pix with the black pearloid PG - even tho it is the older one with a black/grey mix vs the later ones that were more black/silver. Going by my purple Bolt I fully planned on changing out to a plain black PG.

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However, I took the knobs off and test-fit the new one (which I hope has a plastic covering - 'cause it is scratched to hell), and really did not like the plain black. I preferred the pearloid, as the greys in it - in person - go well with the older deep pearl blue.

Also, regarding the color, I have 2 other deep pearl blue guitars and this has much more of a blue base color (the others go too far toward black, IMO). So I like the looks of this.


P/ups -
The M22T is what I expect, maybe a bit brighter than I was expecting - but in a tighter tension 25.5" scale guitar, it can tend that way. My ash Bolt is kinda that way too.
The SD 59 -
I have the full HB in my purple CT3, and LOVE it! Hence my itch to try this. This one has a similar tone - smooth deep end, nice bright top end, but not as much output as the full HB. It also has a bit more low end emphasis.
The middle is an AP11.

Wiring -
M22T / AP11 / SD '59.
M22T auto-tapped to use top coil when middle p/up is used, via 5-way switch.
Mini sw = include bridge (aka "always-on").


With the FT6 set up pretty well, and a bit of truss rod adjustment, this is playing pretty darn good. I think it came with a 942 set (D'ad obviously) as it felt kinda slinky, and I changed to my preferred D'ad 1046 set. Also - fun fact : This is my 2nd non-new Carvin (Kiesel), and the ser#s are 80 apart - and that Bolt+ is a 2002, from the Carvin Museum. So for a circa 2002 guitar, it took a caveman pounding and after a setup it plays very well!!




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Re: NeBD

Postby dejabluguitar » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:48 am

congrats I dig your uprades. For me I like the mini toggle in the center position.
my cover band http://www.dejabluband.com

my original music
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way diffrent than my cover band
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Re: NeBD

Postby ilyti » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:29 pm

Nothing like a good Bolt adventure! Congrats, at least with the result.

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Re: NeBD

Postby wickid » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:04 am


Just to put these 2 side by side (they look good to me) ...

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Re: NeBD

Postby skully13a » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:17 am

Sounds like more adventure than you'd signed up for. I guess that's the way it turns out, frequently. Nicely done. :applause:
Nice pair of bolts you've ended up with. :)
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Re: NeBD

Postby toejam » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:34 pm

Very cool! Congrats on your new Bolt project. Pearl Blue is always a nice choice.

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Re: NeBD

Postby wickid » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:44 am


Just a further comment about the lil '59.
I think I mentioned, the tone is about 90-95% what I hear from the full HB version in my CT3. The output is around 85-90%, on the weaker side. Might just be due to the fact its a single coil size HB?
But looking at the pic (and in person), the poles are not aligned. I mean its worse than an F/non-F spaced bridge HB (I haven't had problems with the non-F Duncan C5 in the CT3). However, I have noticed a weaker response in both E strings with this neck p/up, and the poles are completely out from under those strings. Even with a "mis-aligned" bridge HB, the poles are somewhat under those strings. Its not horrible, just ... off by a bit.

So ... I don't play with p/up pole height typically - too much detail to worry about, for me. But I just might try raising the outer poles to balance it out. We'll see.
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Re: NeBD

Postby wickid » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:03 am


(Yeah, another necro-bump from me ...)
But in researching a couple of hardware changes to black (bridge, tuners), and the stewmac tool not applicable to the Kiesel tuners, I began looking into Sperzels. The point of this post is that out in the "wild" (ie ebay), most of the sperzels seem to be staggered-post. Like for a Strat or flat headstock needing string tree(s).
It turns out since Carvin / Kiesel tilt the headstock, they did not use the staggered posts. Also, the tuners I put on this Bolt WERE staggered, and I didn't even realize it. It looks like I put them on tall / med / short / tall / med / short, instead of tall / tall / med / med / short / short. But in the end it seems it doesn't really matter, as it plays just fine, and I didn't even realize it until I did this recent research - about a year later.

Edit - I just noticed stewmac has the tuner jig available again. I emailed them to ask if the new ones have all 6 holes or only 4 (like my current jig). (I wonder if they'd take mine in and machine the other 2? :think: Doubt it.)
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