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ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:45 pm

cross between flame/quilt or just light quilt, or uneven flame ?? not sure what it is but could not pass it up !
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:46 pm

Wow ! lol (just had to make 100th post lol !!!) Serial # 8926 ... has seymour duncans : (
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby skully13a » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:19 pm

Oh, man. So much to like there. Dig that wood. Or what, eh?
:shock: Yowza.
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:27 pm

Thanks ! just need to find vintage cream Carvin pups to make original, vintage seymour juncans in it when I purchased... :lol:
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby dbone » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:31 pm

Nice score koaboy! Really is a beauty :coolpics:
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:46 pm

dbone wrote:Nice score koaboy! Really is a beauty :coolpics:



thanks man ! I saw the brochure so I see that the the knobs were replaced too, and it is quilted maple ... the abalone inlays are yellowed/aged as well as the finish coating making it look neatly vintage - gonna remove all components and give a major polish and clean ... when I have time ?? really nice with no major ding/dents so I am happy but as soon as I got this there is a flamed maple V220 and an incredible curly double neck on Reverb lol I'd love to be able to afford, ya never know when a Carvin classic will pop up !!
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby amispy » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:27 am

Congrats on scoring a vintage DC160 in good shape. I'm a little green with envy. :-)
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Postby gumbynotpokey » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:19 am

I'll be the one to state the obvious: that was built back when they used the entire block of (flamed, quilted) wood to build the axe - body and all.

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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Greg Emm » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:28 am

What a beaut! Congratulations on uncovering such a classic. No doubt you'll track down the components to restore this guitar to its original state. What an awesome project.

Congratulations again. :woot:

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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Doctor Turn » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:53 am

And an early one too, with the old version of aTOM and master tone. Awesome find! Now you just need to hunt up a vintage cream set of M22's!

Congratulation. No secret how much I love this model.
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:45 pm

Thanks guys, just polished it and put new strings on, plays pretty well but the high E buzzes so I have to work on the bridge a bit...

I have Carvin guitars from every decade since the seventies, gonna post a new group photo soon, there is one in the man cave post in the clubs section, finished my basement /jam area so it should be cool, gonna try to make it look like an old Carvin catalog :D
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Casual Madman » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:47 am

Koaboy wrote:Thanks ! just need to find vintage cream Carvin pups to make original, vintage seymour juncans in it when I purchased... :lol:


You can order a set of new cream M-22s now, if you hurry (they're going away, if you didn't know). Closest match to the period would be to use an M22SD in both positions - there weren't individual neck/bridge pickups made then.

Back when this was made, there was no "flame/quilted" maple distinction - Carvin called it all "curly maple."

That's a drop-dead gorgeous lady. Congrats! :applause: :applause: :applause:

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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Doctor Turn » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:12 am

Not in the catalogs, in that sense you're right. The only one specifically advertised as separate was the SD.

But on the guitars, when you take them apart, you'll clearly see that they're marked by the builder as T or N (or SD, of course) depending on where they went. And wound accordingly.

An M22SD would be way too hot for the neck position. That was built specifically for the bridge. If anything, he'd do well with an M22N in both positions, because it's wound like a (in PAF terms) hot PAF and is even suggested by Carvin to be a very good bridge pickup. DCR comes in on the mid eights.

The problem, especially for the neck pickup, is that the winding scheme and building materials have changed versus the vintage days. I think that's why koaboy is on a mission to find a vintage set with the vintage specs to match the eighties period in which that beauty was built.
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:31 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:Not in the catalogs, in that sense you're right. The only one specifically advertised as separate was the SD.

But on the guitars, when you take them apart, you'll clearly see that they're marked by the builder as T or N (or SD, of course) depending on where they went. And wound accordingly.

An M22SD would be way too hot for the neck position. That was built specifically for the bridge. If anything, he'd do well with an M22N in both positions, because it's wound like a (in PAF terms) hot PAF and is even suggested by Carvin to be a very good bridge pickup. DCR comes in on the mid eights.

The problem, especially for the neck pickup, is that the winding scheme and building materials have changed versus the vintage days. I think that's why koaboy is on a mission to find a vintage set with the vintage specs to match the eighties period in which that beauty was built.



Yes Dr Turn your are correct, I will find the proper pups for it some day soon, then Ill update pic/better pics with my good camera and outdoors... for now here is my vintage family minus my semi hollow guitar (all solid maple and 1 koa bass)
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:45 pm

Oh my goodness :o :shock: - I just was looking at the 1979 catalog and I really think this DC I just acquired for a whopping.. $700 is the same guitar in the ad... look at pics and compare grains, so far as I see they are exact... more to come I will take new pics from my Olympus camera tomorrow - supposed to be a clear day ...
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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Koaboy » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:47 pm

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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Don » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:38 am

Wow! I think you're correct!

I recently bought an '83 DC150 and it has become one of my favorite guitars. There's "something" about these guitars!

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Re: ngd 1979 DC160 finally landed a classic ...

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:54 am

Dude! That's pretty crazy, to think you just landed that flamed 160 that's been drooled over throughout the eighties and beyond, and reprinted endlessly throughout the forums and the museum by guys who covet these specific guitars. I'd like to know who the great genius numbnuts was who junked the pickups completely on her.

A nice vintage set of ribbon free, individually taped bobbin M22's will set things right. If I could spare it I'd send you mine, but now that these are being pulled I especially need them. But mine are all black anyhow.

And they do have that something... Despite the similarity in scale, pickups, and building materials, they sound somewhat different from the old 200's (but very similar to the CM140's). These have more of that dense, thick yet piercing Les Paul Custom sound, with a correspondence between those maple Customs of the Seventies, with the maple 150/60's, and a traditional mahogany Custom and a koa 150/60. But with the switching of a Recording series, and the stereo output of those high end ES's.

Unique beasts, and I still think the shape is the most elegantly badass of the whole Golden Age. Especially the Eighties version after they thickened up the body slab to LP Special width (deceptive to the eye because of the chamfered edges on both sides of the slab shaving off a good bit of thickness at the right angle drop off on both sides of the slab. But when you look at the neck joint you see it's as thick as the mahogany on a Lester.

I keep forgetting to grab a new engraved truss rod for mine. I took the clips off from behind the neck because, even with the tremolo engaged, ever since solving the Kahler "issue" with a good reinforced string like elixir, it stays in tune very well. But I keep it locked to a hard tail most of the time anyhow. I just rarely use trems these days, or think in those terms when soloing. When I do use it it's more holding in my hand with light varying sustained pulls and pushes for that dreary vocal effect.
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Postby ElfDude » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:33 am

So cool!
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Postby slayer » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:18 pm

Very nice!!
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