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Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:18 am
by UnexplodedCow
Well, it's on the return trip to Kiesel to get those posts sorted out. I'll update if anything changes.

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:43 am
by Casual Madman
Good luck, Cow. Lovely instrument.

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:34 pm
by arahobob
freakofnature wrote:Looks great! A while back I ordered 2 Vaders when the new Trem was available. Both had the same minor tuning stability issues you mentioned. I returned them immediately for something else as Trem stability is an absolute MUST HAVE for me. Went back to my trusty Floyd's. I did NOT however notice if it had leaning posts like that so I can't comment if that's normal.


I too didn't care for the bridge - mostly for other reasons but tuning was a bit flaky as well.
It seems like most folks are having better luck with them in general so that's a good sign.

I hope it works out for you.

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:51 am
by Treadplatedual
Excited to see it complete (again?)!

Keep us.....


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Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:38 pm
by RockCrue
Whoa, thats nice!!!!

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:34 am
by UnexplodedCow
Got a notice last night with some tracking; it's on its way back! Should be here on Tuesday.

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:21 am
by UnexplodedCow
A happy ending to the story!

It arrived about an hour ago; in the freezing temps, in tune. Posts are upright, and the holes re-drilled/shimmed. Playin' great now, no signs of tuning problems.

One neat factor is that I'd ordered the standard Ash body, which is normally 2 piece. After looking at pictures, and now the guitar end-grain, I'm dead certain it's a one piece body. I didn't see that at first, but it's a cool upgrade. Beautiful guitar, and I'm glad it was taken care of.

Best neck I've had, still. It's good to have it back.

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:56 am
by skully13a
Right on! 8) All's well that ends well. :)

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:04 am
by dbone
Ahh very good to hear that enjoy!

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:38 am
by ElfDude
Love a happy ending!

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:03 am
by ilyti
Awesome, glad it worked out. :D

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:35 pm
by ioneater
Right on!

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Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:23 pm
by Treadplatedual
Glad to hear it Cow!

Hey, perhaps I missed something, but why is this the "final" build?

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:46 pm
by UnexplodedCow
Treadplatedual wrote:Glad to hear it Cow!

Hey, perhaps I missed something, but why is this the "final" build?


That question is going to take some explaining, and what amounts to a life story:


As I age, I came to realize that more was not better, and that I'd cluttered up my life (and house) with more equipment than I needed. Much of it was left to me from my late father, and I kept it around for a few years, as a way to sort of have a tangible memory of the good times. I eventually realized that I didn't like the old guitars much, and had better-playing (or sounding) versions of my own. I kept two that he'd owned: a limited-edition Thinline Jaguar that he bought a few months before passing, and a late 90s Carvin TL-60 that he bought years ago, and was his main guitar. I let everything else go; cheap guitars, expensive, classic amps, cabinets and speakers, and pedals. Those two guitars have distinct voices, and play very well. Lots of good memories of that TL-60.

Lack of space came when my son arrived, and I placed things into storage for several years. I realized that I hadn't missed it. I found what I wanted in the Legacy amp, and in a good modeler, so the need for bunches of amps wasn't there anymore. I don't play out except at my church, mostly due to being considered "too old" or "too young," or "not fun" due to not being into drugs/drinking/random hookups. I've been turned down for bands for not tuning "low enough."

So, at the end of the day, I realized more of what I wanted, and I'm still in the phase of letting much of it go. To be honest, having a finality and destination in guitars is very liberating. In all honesty, the Z6X is not exactly where I'd expected to wind up, as I'd panned the shape as "tele" derived when it launched, but looking at it from a function-based minset caused me to realize what I'd been missing with so many other guitars. I think it plays better than the Vader, and is more comfortable. The wood choices just make it look, and smell, beautiful. It's not for everyone; it's a guitar for me. Z is the last letter in the alphabet, so it was fitting. It also has nods to each guitar it replaced in the build, one being my old green DC135T. That guitar went to my father in law, as a "thank you" for helping me out in the past. The day he received it was perfectly timed as he plays at his church, and needed an electric. Plus, he always loved that one.

Sure, it's nice to brag about how many guitars one owns, or amps, or whatever, but at the end of the day, that never defined me, and I found myself unable to use all that I had, or even keep it around. So, what does one do? Do they keep getting a larger place, spending more money to house such things, or let it go, accept reality and that they are extremely blessed to even have these things? I chose the latter.

I'm in the process of downsizing acoustics and bass stuff, too, and will probably grab a Kiesel headless 5 or 6 string bass to sum everything up into one instrument. Nothing special is needed there, as I lean more toward guitar.

I doubt I'll buy more, unless what I have is stolen or destroyed.

Anyway, thanks for the question. It's been fun answering.

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:49 am
by Doctor Doug
That's a great story and one that resonates a lot.

I'm in somewhat of the same boat (not really :wink: ). I have quite a few guitars that I really don't play anymore and just about three that I'm jonesing for now.


I really want a nice acoustic, a semi-hollowbody and a basic SCB6. Beyond that....?

Re: Cow's final build NGD

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:56 am
by UnexplodedCow
It's taken a few years to get over the materialism, and I still find myself stumbling at times. It's an easy thing to fall into given so many interested, hobbies, and an incredible amount of ads being thrown at the average American on a daily basis. This is another reason I was drawn to Kiesel; they aren't advertised everywhere, and I like that.

I skipped the semi-hollow entirely, and passed on a Matsumoku-made Epiphone Emperor my dad left me. i leaned toward a Gretsch 5120, and dropped some blacktop Filtertrons in. I think it's a better sounding, and better playing instrument.

I have a cheap Yamaha A1M to pull acoustic duties, but it's actually garnered some love from guys who've played it, and only buy Taylor. Considering i dropped $400 new (with case) for it, I'd call that a solid buy, and it genuinely sounds good.

Neither of those guitars holds a candle to how comfortable the Z6X is, though. That bevel....it may look silly to some, but for someone who's completely torn the ligament holding the ulna to their wrist, and has pain, that silly-looking bevel puts my arm at the proper, pain-free angle. The Vader is close, but the Zeus does it. Everything else feels more like an instrument, and not an extension. Yeah, I've mentioned all this before, but it still floors me.