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Tung oil over stain...

Postby Nic Martens » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:56 pm

Hey everyone!

I'm building myself a neck-thru as we speak, but have a question on the finish. I will stain it to pop the grain and to add colour, but I was wondering if tung oil works as a finish over stain?

And does it matter if I then use an oil-based or a water-based stain?

I'm trying to avoid a clear topcoat finish here...

Thanks for helping out!

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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Nic Martens » Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:14 pm

Nevermind. Just saw Kashyyk's guitar project and that said it all... Tru oil is what I need, and it works on stain, that's for sure by looking at those great pictures! What a guitar!!

Oh, and for those that are interested: here's a peek at my first inlay job ever! Since the fretboard was very movable at this point it's the first thing I've done on my home made guitar:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1135301738 ... directlink

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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby dellis334 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:46 am

Those inlays are absolutely KILLER.

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Re: re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Nic Martens » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:34 am

dellis334 wrote:Those inlays are absolutely KILLER.


Thanks for the nice comment! It took 36 hours in total to come to this result, but it sure pays off the hard work!
As soon as I get rid of my eye-infection, I will continue this project. It will be a guitar, created from several ideas I collected from existing models. A new world has opened!!

The book "how to build an electric gutiar" starts with: "this will not be the only guitar you're going to build"...
I'm afraid that's absolutely right! :lol:

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Re: re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Kashyyk » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:17 am

Nic Martens wrote:Nevermind. Just saw Kashyyk's guitar project and that said it all... Tru oil is what I need, and it works on stain, that's for sure by looking at those great pictures! What a guitar!!

Oh, and for those that are interested: here's a peek at my first inlay job ever! Since the fretboard was very movable at this point it's the first thing I've done on my home made guitar:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1135301738 ... directlink


Hi, and thank you for the comment about my guitar! It is standing next to me right now, and is waiting for me to pick it up. I am originally a bass player, but that is the perfect guitar to learn playing on :D

Your inlays are amazing! Was that your first attempt? Looks great!
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Re: re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Nic Martens » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:59 pm

Kashyyk wrote:Hi, and thank you for the comment about my guitar! It is standing next to me right now, and is waiting for me to pick it up. I am originally a bass player, but that is the perfect guitar to learn playing on :D

Your inlays are amazing! Was that your first attempt? Looks great!



You're welcome and thanks! And yes: first inlay, first attempt!! But I must say I had an advantage: since 17 years I'm an "extremely precision tool and die"- maker. So I'm used to work at a high level, I'm very patient, and a real perfectionist.

So the fact that the triangles don't fit perfectly is a real thorn in the eye, but at the same time I'm enough of a realist to know that handcarving those triangles is impossible to be perfect. Especially because I made them under the naked eye, no visual helping tools used.
You have to make them machine-wise to do so.

If you have any tips or questions about my project, feel free to tell/ask.

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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Nic Martens » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:28 pm

So, the tru oil has arrived, and I've tried some on the fretboard. I read about it on other forums and it turned out...

Well, see for yourselves:

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And I've tried a piece of flame maple I've sawn from the neckwood. Didn't even stain it yet:


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TRU OIL IS DEFINITELY THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR ME!!!
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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Dvldogg187 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:54 am

That is a bad ass fret board! Nice work!

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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby PastorDave » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:27 pm

I love your fretboard, excelent work!!!! I did tool and die for a short time while on my apprenticeship for maint mech but unfortunatly I don't have any machines to do that type of work. That looks like something you could make some money doing! Great job so far!!! :applause:
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Postby Nic Martens » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:13 am

PastorDave wrote:...That looks like something you could make some money doing! Great job so far!!! :applause:


Only for the fortunate or someone who really, really, REALLY wants it. This took me a whole week to execute, I'd have to charge $1.000 for that!!!
But then again, it's unique in every way.

By the way: thank you all for the kind words! Hopefully the rest of the guitar turns out to be like I have it in mind... I'm doing the neck as we speak... Wish me luck!
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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Kashyyk » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:30 am

What kind of wood is that fretboard?
Looks like Ziricote or something like that from the grain.
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Carvin BK50 Fretless

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Re: re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Nic Martens » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:50 am

Kashyyk wrote:What kind of wood is that fretboard?
Looks like Ziricote or something like that from the grain.


Ziricote it is! The example on the suppliers' website convinced me, but the piece that came in blew me away. I had a personal interpretation of a "tree of life" inlay in mind, but I knew right away it would kill the beauty of the wood.

So I threw away the first idea and came up with the triangles, divided by triangles. Because of my lucky number three... So I had to hand-carve 77 of them to fit the design, and since seven is the lucky number of the lady of the house... Everybody happy!

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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby Nic Martens » Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:18 am

This tru oil on stain does look incredible. Tried it on a piece of excess material from the neck wood. This one's green, but I'm having at least 10 other pieces to try some other colors (purple, blue, red, black, yellow, orange,...) with/without bursts,... to make up my mind.

That green certainly is a serious contender...

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Ibanez RG550 EXGK Left handed (self-customized)

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re: Tung oil over stain...

Postby PastorDave » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:53 am

Looking good!
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re: (Tung oil over stain...). Project info/pics

Postby Nic Martens » Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:31 am

This project is moving on now! The neck shape is done. A happy marriage between an NT6 and an NT7 when it comes to dimensions. Headstock inspired by Ibanez, with a detail of the 600/700 headstock.
Now waiting for the body/topwood to come in. (mahogany/flame maple.

I'm very pleased with how the flame of the neck shows, even when it's not even staind yet!

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Carvin DC727 Left handed

Ibanez RG550 EXGK Left handed (self-customized)

One home build RG lookalike that doesn't look like one, but it IS a Lefty!!



Laney Ironheart IRT 120H

Homemade 4x12 cab

Line6 POD HD500


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