GK-1 Kit - done.

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GK-1 Kit - done.

Postby camperband » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:25 pm

I'm opening this thread to keep track of my Bolt Kit from unboxing to completion. I'm a bit overwhelmed at the task ahead.

The purpose is to share experiences with future builders. I'm sure I'll make plenty mistakes for others to avoid.
I have learned plenty from this forum, and I want to give back to it as much as my abilities allow. I'll be taking unorthodox approaches to finishing body and neck as I am not well versed on wood working. Wish me luck!


Ordered my GK-1 kit on Dec 31st 2017. On Jan 26 2018, fedex dropped the box on my front door. That was fast!

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Postby spudmunkey » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:59 pm

Congrats! Looks like you got some great grain in that body.

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Postby Greg Emm » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:43 pm

Those are some sweet-looking components! I applaud you taking the dive into assembling and finishing your own guitar. I hope it's a great experience. Good luck! Take your time and enjoy it.

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Postby skully13a » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:25 am

I'm digging it already. :ninja:
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Postby ElfDude » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:14 am

Good call on the AP11s. They're just SO sweet in a Bolt. :)
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Postby ilyti » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:49 pm

Pink inlays! Is the body going to match?

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Postby Brian Johnston » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:42 am

I'm waiting for a Zeus kit... not sure why they don't offer other models (I'm sure it's explained somewhere).

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Postby Praiser » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:56 am

Brian Johnston wrote:I'm waiting for a Zeus kit... not sure why they don't offer other models (I'm sure it's explained somewhere).


I wouldn't hold my breath on any other kits being offered.
My dream was for a Vanquish bass kit, but it was made clear every time I asked that it wasn't going to happen.
I finally went with the BK50 in 2016 and love the bass it became.

Work with what they offer, or you'll most likely have to look elsewhere for something different.
Unfortunately, that's just where things seem to be right now. Happy hunting...
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Postby camperband » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:06 am

ilyti wrote:Pink inlays! Is the body going to match?


yes!
Starting on some tests.

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Getting the neck ready for some tung-oil finishing this weekend. Headstock will also be painted pink.
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Postby camperband » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:11 am

ElfDude wrote:Good call on the AP11s. They're just SO sweet in a Bolt. :)


Still undecided on how many will survive my frankenstein approach. So far, I have a P90 being hand-wound for me for the bridge position! But 95% sure the neck & middle will stay. The intent is having a "beefier" single coil guitar. But i'm toying with the idea of taking out the middle AP11 andjust leaving AP-11 in the neck and P90 in the bridge. Mmmm... but not sure I'd want to miss out on the "2 and 4" strat positions. Probably not a good idea to lose the middle p'up, right?

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Postby ElfDude » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:53 am

camperband wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Good call on the AP11s. They're just SO sweet in a Bolt. :)


Still undecided on how many will survive my frankenstein approach. So far, I have a P90 being hand-wound for me for the bridge position! But 95% sure the neck & middle will stay. The intent is having a "beefier" single coil guitar. But i'm toying with the idea of taking out the middle AP11 andjust leaving AP-11 in the neck and P90 in the bridge. Mmmm... but not sure I'd want to miss out on the "2 and 4" strat positions. Probably not a good idea to lose the middle p'up, right?


In my opinion, while still good at the bridge, that's the position where the AP11 is the least awesome. At the neck it's the most beautiful clean tone ever! ;) Putting a P-90 in the bridge will be a very cool mod!
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Re: GK-1 Kit -

Postby camperband » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 am

ElfDude wrote:
camperband wrote:
ElfDude wrote:Good call on the AP11s. They're just SO sweet in a Bolt. :)


Still undecided on how many will survive my frankenstein approach. So far, I have a P90 being hand-wound for me for the bridge position! But 95% sure the neck & middle will stay. The intent is having a "beefier" single coil guitar. But i'm toying with the idea of taking out the middle AP11 andjust leaving AP-11 in the neck and P90 in the bridge. Mmmm... but not sure I'd want to miss out on the "2 and 4" strat positions. Probably not a good idea to lose the middle p'up, right?


In my opinion, while still good at the bridge, that's the position where the AP11 is the least awesome. At the neck it's the most beautiful clean tone ever! ;) Putting a P-90 in the bridge will be a very cool mod!


thanks for sharing your opinion. It is exactly what I was hoping to hear, about the AP in the bridge. Seems like I'll end up with S-S-P90 then. thanks again!

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Re: GK-1 Kit -

Postby camperband » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:03 am

Update:
This weekend I applied 3 light coats of Tung Oil Finish to the neck. I will stop at 4, so one more to go. Sanded with 400 paper between all coats. Final coat will get a light pass with 0000 Steel Wool only. It's coming out nice.

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Then took out the wire brush to give the body some ruggedness. My aim has been to get a finish somewhat like the Raw Tone factory finish, so I need some grooves in the wood for that. After a good while of hand brushing, some light texturing started happening. Happy with it: not too wheathered but still some tactile texture to it. This will also help with the body being more forgiving on the final finish ( I dont have spray paint skills, so the plan has always been avoiding endless coats of high gloss )

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Postby skully13a » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:01 pm

Fascinating. :think:
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Postby camperband » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:07 am

Steel Wool 0000 in white vinegar. Let it sit for a week. Getting ready for staining.
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Thought I'd stain the wood to get a weathered look. In retrospect, I'd probably avoid this step if I ever do this again. It left the wood too dark and that means much more coats of paint will be required to cover over it.
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This is the stained wood, wet. It looks really nice. this is probably what it would look like with just a varnish on top, in case anybody wants to go that route.
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This is what the stain looks like when dry. It has allowed me to enhance the brushed texture I've given the wood.
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Re: GK-1 Kit -

Postby camperband » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:30 am

First coat of paint being brushed on. Yes, brush, not spray. I'm going for a rougher, non-professional look.
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I'm using water-based acrylic paint from Michael's. Yup. Michael's. It's a pickling finish paint with a very chalky finish to it. I did say at the beginning that I'd be going about this guitar in an unorthodox approach, logging in every step to contribute to this forum's wealth of information.
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first coat on back of body:
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One thing I did, was to take into consideration the tightness of the neck pocket fit of any Kiesel. So i sealed the pocket with ONE coat of tung oil. As I go along, I make sure no paint gets into this area.
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Postby camperband » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:47 am

First coat is dry. I sanded with 400 grit, revealing a very nice weathered finish. And it looks like this:
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I debated for literally a good hour and a half wether to stop there. I really liked it. Should've stopped there. But this was not my initial objective. I want a pink guitar and this has not enough of it. For a next project, I'll probably do it all again up to here; this look would be cool for yellow or white.
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Re: GK-1 Kit -

Postby camperband » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:52 am

The neck is a few steps behind (I had to let the 4th and final coat of tung oil dry). But also getting the same treatment: wire brush, stain, pink coat, 400 sanding. Ready for a few more coats of paint.
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Re: GK-1 Kit -

Postby ilyti » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:28 pm

I agree, needs more pink. You might get sort of an AAT look under the pink, if it stays translucent enough.

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Postby camperband » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:23 am

More pink. 4 coats and the paint is neither translucent nor solid. After all, it's a pickling paint so coverage is not its forté. I think I'll do one more coat and then sand some areas a bit more than the others to get a bit of a relic/weathered look. Right now it's looking like this:
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