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BK50 ideas

Postby brento73 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:09 pm

So, I've been wanting to get a Kiesel bass for a while, since I started practicing bass in earnest last fall instead of treating it like a big guitar. I have, in fact, several posts to the effect.

Another thing I've been wanting to do for a long time is build a kit.

Since choosing the model and options for a $2000-ish bass is taking forEVER(much like my Fatboy a couple years ago), I figure I'll combine the bass and kit ideas, and order a BK50!

Anyone have wood suggestions, pickup ideas, etc? Is it worthwhile to get the active electronics?

Any ideas are appreciated!

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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby Praiser » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:09 pm

Built my Fretless in 2016 and have 2 other kits I got used.
Woods are all going to sound good so determine what look you want and go that way. No need to drop a lot of coin unless you want a particular look.
I'm a fan of stainless frets and black hardware.
The actives are super powerful but the passive tones are pretty great too.
Pickup options are limited on the kits but always ask for your preference.
Tons of finishing tutorials out there from simple to insane.
Great way to get a fine instrument for a good deal and some sweat equity.
Figure out what you do and don't want and let that drive your choices.
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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby brento73 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:38 pm

Thanks for the feedback! I really like walnut, but I'm a little worried the thing will weigh a ton, so I'm not sure. Part of me thinks I should just go simple, stock woods, single coils, chrome hardware, etc.

With the active electronics, you can always bypass those to get the passive tones, right?

Also, just to confirm, the kit neck have the cool carbon fiber rods, yes?

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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby Praiser » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:58 am

Walnut can be heavy, but can be so worth it in how it looks with a simple finish.
I asked for a light piece of Swamp Ash and it still feels about the same as my others.
Walnut body was on my short list of options but I had a specific look in mind and went with Swamp Ash.

Every piece of wood used for a body is unique so you just have to decide and roll the dice.
I also removed some of the wood by enhancing the belly and forearm cuts.
A touch more was removed by beveling and tapering the horns slightly.
The more access you have to some decent tools means you have more chances to modify the body successfully to your ideal shape, configuration, and weight.
Chances are, most bodies are likely within 0.5 to 1 lb of each other, so you can ask for the lightest example they have of whatever species you like to help improve your odds of not getting a boat anchor.

Nothing wrong with going with the stock offerings, at all.

Yes, you can still bypass the actives for that great passive tone.

Yes, the neck is exactly like their production units. Rods and all.
Take your time and dial in the setup, and you'll end up with a real player when you are done.
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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby brento73 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:18 am

Thanks again, John!

I'm most likely going to have flatwounds on it, so any pickup recommendations? Ideally, I'd like it to be fairly versatile, so maybe something that's a bit brighter to balance out the more mellow strings?

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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby Praiser » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:22 am

Both of my 5ers have the J99 singles and the 4 banger has a version of the H50.
The singles are a great all around pup and are dead silent if your shielding is solid.
I even added shielding to the pup cavities and ran a wire to the shielding in the cavity.
The singles have plenty of top end to put some shine on the flat tone.

The fretless 5 (Passive) I built in 2016 has the Carvin flats and the fretted one (active) has rounds.
2 different versions of the same voice since the pups are the same. Lots of good tones available in both, though.

They refused to route mine for the Split Pup. Don't know if they'll do anything other than the standard routes, so that limits your pup options quite a bit. Run through the builder and I think that's all they allow on the kits.
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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby jsiddall » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:45 pm

Praiser wrote:Woods are all going to sound good so determine what look you want and go that way. No need to drop a lot of coin unless you want a particular look.

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Great way to get a fine instrument for a good deal and some sweat equity.
Figure out what you do and don't want and let that drive your choices.

This -^

From a quality perspective the kits use the same parts (including assemblies like the neck) as the Kiesel offerings, though the kit options are obviously more limited.

Pick the look you want and go for it.

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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby brento73 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:43 pm

Aaaaaaaaand....

order placed!

Walnut neck and body, no dots on the fret board, stock single-coil pickups, active electronics. The email confirmation quoted 6-8 weeks build time, so we'll see how long it takes to get here :)

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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby Praiser » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:00 am

SO stoked you went with all Walnut!!
Can't wait to see it. I'm sure you'll love it!!
Ebony board, stainless frets or any at all??
John

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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby brento73 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:08 am

Thanks, John!

Yeah, stainless and ebony. I thought about getting fancy with the royal ebony, but decided against it.

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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby skully13a » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:05 am

That'll be a nice one. All the walnut I've seen from the Kiesel shop has looked amazing.
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Re: BK50 ideas

Postby jsiddall » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:30 am

Yup, that sounds beautiful. I can confirm that the walnut I got with my kit was excellent.


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