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NBD: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:25 pm

Well, as the regulars will know, I've wanted a Carvin split pu on a bolt neck without a pickguard for a while. Thanks to Mike Jones for trying. Even longer-term regulars might recall a group of us babysitting the product suggestion thread for them to come out with a split pu for about 2 years. They delivered with a tonal beast of a split. If you haven't heard the review demos from the bass mag literature, you should take a listen. For real. The Carvin split is amazing. EVEN GUITARISTS should listen. Why? Your bands deserve killer bass tone. (Ok, I'll say no more about that).

Some on the dreaded interwebs (TB) might ridicule me for sticking with the Carvin split on a custom bass that Carvin didn't build. But who cares about that sort of thinking?

I've been listening to instrumental jazz almost exclusively for the last year and half. Miles, Coltrane, Evans, Cannonball, Jim Hall, Wes, etc. Short of an upright, here is my next....

I wanted low-fi. Pure passive, single tone and volume control. Bolt hard maple neck. Figured myrtle top. Single piece swamp body. Black hardware. String through. Black veneer layer. The fingerboard is Ipe and it is bare wood. I chose Ipe due to its extreme hardness so I can fearlessly play rounds on this for a lifetime.

Pickup? Carvin SPLIT PICKUP! (Can't wait to hear this!)
Strings? Carvin NICKLE ROUNDWOUNDS! (I LOVE these strings and have played nothing else with the exception of Carvin flats since 2004!)

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She ships Monday this coming week. I leave on a trip Monday with no net access until probably Wed or Th. Pardon me please while I seemingly abandon this thread.

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I will give a full tone report on this hybrid down the road. I AM SO looking forward to hearing the Carvin Split on a bare wood passive fretless!

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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby Coda » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:13 pm

Congrats, gumbynotpokey!

Wow! Figured myrtle? I love how the grain "bursts" around the bridge. This is going to be one real special bass. :D

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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby Appollyon » Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:35 pm

Oh holy mother of grid, gumbynotpokey! :shock: :drool: That is freakin amazing! I don't have enough superlatives for this bass! Seriously, dude. I'm in love! AND fretless?! If this was a six string bass, I'd hunt you down! :P
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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby Nlelith » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:05 pm

Looks awesome! :) Congrats!

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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby Coda » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:22 am

I had to take another look... and I realized how much difference a matching control cavity cover makes. It screams "high-end."

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I guess that sounds like a product suggestion we've seen in the past, eh?
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Re: re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:40 am

Coda wrote:I had to take another look... and I realized how much difference a matching control cavity cover makes. It screams "high-end."I guess that sounds like a product suggestion we've seen in the past, eh?


Tru dat.

I'm gonna re-ignite that one, and also add Ipe as a fingerboard wood.

Ipe is so hard, it has whole wood-working-forum topics dedicated to the destruction of saw blades, etc. But you know what? That's the cost of working with the material. I don't see that has a total barrier. It is ultra-hard, and so that is that. (If you see what I mean). Maybe it would be available only for fretless basses. My point here is it's a great wood for the right application. I'll toss that in too.

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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby spudmunkey » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:40 pm

That's a beaut, sir!

I had never heard of Myrtle before...that's stunning!

And the best news is, you can use the fretboard as a patio should you ever need to entertain outside! (ipe is a popular outdoor deck and furniture wood).

It all looks super comfy! Everything from the headstock that has a sort of warwick-y organic shape, to the satin finish, to the bolt joint.

My favorite part: how the figuring sort-of outlines the bridge!

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Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:45 pm

Forgot to mention - believe it or not, that's an oil finish.

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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby spudmunkey » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:00 pm

That works too. :)

Is ipe a tight-pored wood (like ebony) or more open (like rosewood)?

Edit: who made this? How did the myrtle come into the picture?

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Postby gumbynotpokey » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:09 am

I don't really know about the tightness, but I suspect it is tighter than rosewood. I'll know soon enough, right?

As to the builder, it's a Clement bass, thus the thread title.
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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby Praiser » Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:44 am

I was fortunate enough to have Mr. GnP share this build with me before this thread was started. Seeing the in-process photos was a real treat for me. Knowing that Brian had been pining for a bass like this for a while, it was fun to see him getting one put together. Not 100% Carvin, but that's OK, too.

Here's hoping the next couple of days go by quickly and that it arrives safe and ready to go! I'm really happy for you, man. It's such a great looking and well thought out build.

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re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:06 pm

She is home, and so am I. We got home on the same day.

Sorry for the cell phone pic. The ones above were from the builder before shipping.

More tone report to come but I'll say this: the split pu is a MONSTER.

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re: NBD: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:40 pm

I started this thread when she got done and before arrival. Now I've added "NBD" in front of the thread title. She is home and sounding KILLER.
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Well, whatchu all think?

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Re: re: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:41 pm

spudmunkey wrote:Is ipe a tight-pored wood (like ebony) or more open (like rosewood)?


It's ultra-dense.

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re: NBD: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:49 pm

Finally got her outdoors here at home for a few better quality pics. Enjoy.

Any comments are welcome.

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Please pardon all the pics. I'm a little excited about this thing.

Had a chance to play an entire morning service with her this am. Tone report later - I'd like to play her with the band a few more times before I go into details. For now, I'll say I'm VERY VERY HAPPY with the sound.

THANK YOU Carvin for an incredible split pu. Truly. It's KILLER.
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re: NBD: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby Praiser » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:10 pm

Never apologize for posting pics of this (or your Carvins).
I could look at this thing non-stop. Such an amazing top.
The rest of it ain't too shabby either!

Looking forward to hearing a more detailed tone report as you get more acquainted with it.

Congrats again and thanks for sharing.

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Postby Casual Madman » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:19 pm

I foresee a new New Year's resolution in the very near future for Mr GumbyNot. :mrgreen:

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Re: re: NBD: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:52 pm

Casual Madman wrote:I foresee a new New Year's resolution in the very near future for Mr GumbyNot. :mrgreen:


:laughhard:

touche'!

and well deserved, too!

:|

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(another gig/practice or two and I'll do a tone report....afterall, a tone report is worth a thousand pictures, right?)
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re: NBD: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby NorthBass74 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:21 pm

:shock:

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re: NBD: Clement bass, Carvin pickup

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:24 pm

Ok, I've done a good bit of gigging and band practices with this puppy. Here's a bit of a tone report on the Carvin split pu on this passive 4 string.

Tone Report Summary: :shock: :ninja: :shock:

And now, the rest of the story....

Ok, this is first and foremost a well designed split, with the characteristics of a P pickup that we are all accustomed to. I came up playing a copy of a P for many years, before I found Carvin. I know the sound of a P. If you are looking for a P sound in a Carvin bass, you can find that sound with this pickup. It will take time to develop, but you can find it.

What classic characteristics does this pu have? In no particular order, and with words failing me to transfer sounds into words, here we go....this pu has
*classic P presence
*low-fi for days if you want it
*wide girth with tone rolled back, but it still retains its crispness
*classic split pu growl any time you want it
*roundness and warmth of old-school P, if you want it
*instant change of character with right hand placement and technique (I can play with my right hand 1/3 of the way up the neck for smoothness, then switch to 1/2 way between the pu and the bridge for some butt-kicking and the instrument responds beautifully as one would hope)

What sets the Carvin split apart from the herd? (no pun intended)
*grit, growl, and bite (you have extra grit, extra growl, and extra bite if you want it, and you can determine how much)
*extra presence if you want it -- seems like a hotter pickup all around
*extra definition across the entire tone register, and also extra definition where you want it with a response to the tone knob.

I'm failing.

In short, I can play tons of songs and not miss the MM at the bridge, not miss a single coil at the neck or the bridge, and not wish I could pu blend. This pickup has and does it all. Of course, a J/J bass, or a MM/MM bass this is not. But I'm telling you, this pu could be the only pu in my entire arsenal and I'd be happy. It's that responsive, and has the full range of R&B to metal, to straight rock.

Hope this crappy attempt at a tone report helps.

Passive solo Carvin split? AWESOME!!!!!

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