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Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:41 pm

Rumors of this getting ready to pop at NAMM:

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Rumour from music radar.

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... del-646751

Half PRS and half Wolfgang?
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby dejabluguitar » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:10 pm

Fret access looks marginal. Shape a bit homely.
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:26 pm

No argument from me there. I think it's odd looking, although I think it's turned a little bit away from the camera. Phone lenses always distort guitar shapes. Of the four guitars that make up my current bunch, it's rare that any of them are shaped in the photos the way they are in real life.

In terms of the Gibby, it doesn't look very exciting.
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Naked Ape » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:29 pm

Looks like a slightly toned down version of the Gibson M-III.
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here's the more recent re-issue.
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby arahobob » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:47 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:Rumors of this getting ready to pop at NAMM:

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Rumour from music radar.

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... del-646751

Half PRS and half Wolfgang?


^^ an excellent description.
It's nice to see one of the big guys trying something new.
Maybe it'll look a little better with the headstock, different color etc, and better photos.
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:41 pm

That's true N-Ape, it really does look like a trimmed down two... Which in turn makes it look like a PRS and EVH had a baby.

Looks like some variants in different colors are behind that gold one. I think this guitar would look better with a pick guard. Some guitars really benefit from them.. Les Paul's and Carvin DC 150's for example look good both ways. Also depends on the color and wood/figure.

But this one, especially in a solid color and 1/1 knobs, could use a black or white pick guard.
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:56 pm

Reminds me a bit of a less-pointy Agile Hawker. It's close to something neat, but it's not grabbing me.

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Casual Madman » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:11 am

Have to say, I like the control layout. Volume right where it should be to reach with a pinky, tone out of the way, selector switch handy but not in the strum-line.

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby ElfDude » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:22 pm

Does nothing for me.

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Naked Ape » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:14 am

Casual Madman wrote:Have to say, I like the control layout. Volume right where it should be to reach with a pinky, tone out of the way, selector switch handy but not in the strum-line.

My ST300 has a similar layout, which has suited me well. Very functional and comfy.
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby spudmunkey » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:16 am

Yeah, for me I think it's the goldtop finish that isn't doing it any favors.

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Doctor Turn » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:59 pm

It's growing on me. I'm not dreamy-eyed for it, but the more I see it in different incarnations, and from the straight on angle of the black one, I'm starting to get a little fond of it.

I wonder which direction they went with the pickups... PAF-ish 57's/non-"plus" BBuckers? Or higher output like the 400 series (or higher, like Dirty Fingers)? Be interesting to see.

At least there's some imagination there, something more than pretending that this old LP Standard from this famous player and that old LP Standard from that famous player, are somehow not LP Standards anymore, but something to be elevated and given their own run.

I could care less if I'm the only one on earth besides the luthier who likes the look and the sounds of the guitars that I take into my arsenal, I'm carving out my own road and my own sound, and I carefully thread through a jillion guitars in stores until I find the flexibility, quality, mojo, and/or uniqueness of sound that lights my head up.

Gibson has long needed to stop leaning on the luthiery of the past (I understand it makes them millions, but sheesh), and put together something that's an awful lot of guitar for the money. More guitar than you would imagine for the price, rather than not enough guitar for the excessive price tag. I don't buy headstock logos. I buy guitars...
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby ilyti » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:48 pm

Still doing it wrong. It's like they tried to trace a PRS shape, then gave up around the upper horn and said "screw it, they are going out that way". Or it looks like a Dali-esque melting LPDC. It will probably have the Moderna headstock, or a big reverse banana.

This shape was perfect, why mess with it?

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Oh yeah, because they are Gibson. Nevermind. Let's not forget the Firebird X.

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Naked Ape » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:27 pm

This new Gibson is looking better and better to me, compared to some other companies new models coming out this year.
Again, it's clearly a toned down version of their M-III, which came out quite a few years ago. I wonder if they will have an Axcess version.

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Naked Ape » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:26 am

Just remembered the Tak Matsumoto model that is mostly Epiphone, although I think I've seen a Gibson in Japan. :think:
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I can see a bit of similarity here too. I also see some Fender Jaguar in there.
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby MatiasTolkki » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:34 am

Naked Ape wrote:Just remembered the Tak Matsumoto model that is mostly Epiphone, although I think I've seen a Gibson in Japan. :think:
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I can see a bit of similarity here too. I also see some Fender Jaguar in there.


Matsumoto has recently been using a Firebird model as his signature, and it's a Gibson custom shop level one, so it costs thousands of dollars. I've also seen this signature before as a Gibson and it cost around 500,000 yen or so. It was awhile ago so I forgot exactly, but it wasn't cheap...

And he's a garbage guitarist. He only knows how to steal other people's riffs. Listen to the B'z catalog, LOTS of theft, like note for note theft, not just liberally borrowing stuff.

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Now listen to this:

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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Coda » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:03 am

MatiasTolkki wrote:Just give you one example, B'z first single, Bad Communication, from the mid-80s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lSTLbsXqYI

Now listen to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftknR1gf9qw



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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:23 am

Naked Ape wrote:Just remembered the Tak Matsumoto model that is mostly Epiphone, although I think I've seen a Gibson in Japan. :think:
Screen Shot 2017-01-16 at 12.19.08 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-01-16 at 12.18.47 AM.png
I can see a bit of similarity here too. I also see some Fender Jaguar in there.


I'm trying to figure out if the shapes are in fact the same, or is there some variation between in and the III...

Also trying to identify what the symmetrical DC is behind it in this photo.. looks like it's TV yellow:
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It sort of looks, despite the smallish body size, like a semihollow... or a semi-semi-hollow ( a la w/one F hole, or maybe chambering on only one side).. it looks like it could be a dead ringer for the fabulous Reverend Manta Ray (I wish Reverend got away from ceramics for low output pickups, but they've quietly been turning themselves into THE midrange price company in the USA.. all korina builds on everything... outsourced Asian labor but all assembled in the USA including final setup, etc):

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The sublime Warhawk.. looks like neck thru, is a set neck.
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The bolt-on variant (Jestream 390):
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Re: Gibson Ready To Unload New Solid Body?

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:28 am

Doctor Turn wrote:
Naked Ape wrote:Just remembered the Tak Matsumoto model that is mostly Epiphone, although I think I've seen a Gibson in Japan. :think:
Screen Shot 2017-01-16 at 12.19.08 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-01-16 at 12.18.47 AM.png
I can see a bit of similarity here too. I also see some Fender Jaguar in there.


I'm trying to figure out if the shapes are in fact the same, or is there some variation between in and the III...

Also trying to identify what the symmetrical DC is behind it in this photo.. looks like it's TV yellow:
Image

It sort of looks, despite the smallish body size, like a semihollow... or a semi-semi-hollow ( a la w/one F hole, or maybe chambering on only one side).. it looks like it could be a dead ringer for the fabulous Reverend Manta Ray (I wish Reverend got away from ceramics for low output pickups, but they've quietly been turning themselves into THE midrange price company in the USA.. all korina builds on everything... outsourced Asian labor but all assembled in the USA including final setup, etc.):

Image

The sublime Warhawk.. looks like neck thru, is a set neck.
Image
The bolt-on variant (Jestream 390):
Image


Reverend are actually celebrating their 20th year anniversary this year (sheesh does time fly or WHAT). Typically restless conversation with the maestro Greg Koch @ Wildwood Guitars:

https://youtu.be/Xd9SasHOLEU

If you look at the code for the youtube video, it's pretty funny. It almost calls you the viewer something rectal:
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