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Re: Are Tube Amps History?

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:47 am

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Doctor Turn wrote:Wow, that was one of the silliest titles for the most totally noncommittal article, that really takes no stance whatsoever


I'm yet to read anything particularly helpful in one of those articles that Carvin audio sends out.


They've come a long, sad way... down.

Speaking of, did you ever figure anything out on those old Carvin branded effects, like the chorus?
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Re: Are Tube Amps History?

Postby Omsong » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:13 am

ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:Wow, that was one of the silliest titles for the most totally noncommittal article, that really takes no stance whatsoever


I'm yet to read anything particularly helpful in one of those articles that Carvin audio sends out.


I agree and get really annoyed whenever an advertisement is cloaked in worthless dribble.

I think the pros and cons have been beat to death a 1000 times over. As long as tubes are available at manageable prices there will be a market for tube amps. Do you notice that it's never a question of: "Do tubes sound as good as solid state amps?". Even though a few ss amps may come close, they still don't exactly duplicate the sound and feel of even many low priced tube amps. SS amps do have some advantages over tubes, mainly price, weight and reliability (debatable). But until the cost of ownership becomes prohibitive for the vast majority of players, IMO, tubes will remain in strong demand. (Most likely, government regulation and economics will ultimately determine tube amp desirability.)
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Re: Are Tube Amps History?

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:49 am

...and of course the endless guitar "grudge matches" of say a high end LP versus a PRS.. which inevitably end with nobody in the video taking a position on the matter, and always ending it with "They're both great guitars, and it all comes down to personal taste." Which is of course true (it's always going to come down to taste when you've got the money to buy a high end PRS or Gibson.. because at that point you can pretty much afford anything on the general guitar market), but that's not why we click on those videos. We want to hear someone take a stand and say something about what they like better and why--but they almost never go there.

Solid state proponents along with modelers would almost never risk placing their amps against something truly venerable with a pure circuit like a Trainwreck, an old handwired Marshall or Fender, or something like a modern Carr. There's just no way to recreate the incidental, shifting, beautiful artifacts of tone that change with distance from the amp, interaction of different pup mags with different tubes, volume, room size (w feedback tendency) etc.

On the other hand, your generic brown sound, hi gain clobber from a decent enough crunch factory, etc, your generic modern mid-low priced Marshall/Peavey and many others.. modelers can do that 12AX7 crunch nowadays really well, and really convincing.
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Re: Are Tube Amps History?

Postby hallwayminstrel » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:59 am

ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:Wow, that was one of the silliest titles for the most totally noncommittal article, that really takes no stance whatsoever


I'm yet to read anything particularly helpful in one of those articles that Carvin audio sends out.


I agree. Their articles are insipid and shallow. For example this quote: "In any case, a good tech should be able to quickly isolate and rectify the problem."

Ok, once the tech can get to it, if you can find one in Utah who isn't backed-up six weeks or more.
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Re: Are Tube Amps History?

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:42 pm

I don't feel like starting a new thread, but has anyone here had a chance to try out a Headrush Pedalboard from Eleven?


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