Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

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Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby mj_brooks » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:02 pm

This regards a Carvin V220 from around 1984-1987, but I figured the people here would still be able to help out even if it's a much older guitar.

I bought this Carvin used around four years ago, and never really took a look at the truss rod situation until recently because I didn't really know that I needed to. Basically, under the truss rod cover, all I see is what looks like the end of a screw or something. To my surprise and dismay, there was nowhere to insert an allen key or anything like that.

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I was wondering what I needed to buy/do in order to address this issue (if it was even fixable)? I was thinking I needed to somehow slip something similar to this onto it: Fender Bullet Truss Rod Nut and to somehow screw it on and hope that it'll grip the truss rod in a way to be able to loosen it without loosening the nut.

In short, I'm confused and need help as far as what is needed for me to be able to properly adjust this truss rod.

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re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby Jbird » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:55 am

My '84 DC160 has that kind of truss rod, but it still has the nut and still works.

If there isn't a 'quick fix', I do know that a good repair shop can still fix it but it'll be expensive. They can take off the fretboard and replace the truss rod, from what I've been told.

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Re: re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby mj_brooks » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:07 pm

Jbird wrote:My '84 DC160 has that kind of truss rod, but it still has the nut and still works.

If there isn't a 'quick fix', I do know that a good repair shop can still fix it but it'll be expensive. They can take off the fretboard and replace the truss rod, from what I've been told.


Yeah, I'm trying to avoid any super high expenses if at all possible. I wouldn't think something like this would be that hard to fix if it seems like I'm just missing a piece or two

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re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby OakParkMusicGuy » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:48 am

Check out Stew-Mac's kit for this:

Truss Rod Rescue Kit

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Re: re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby mj_brooks » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:38 am

OakParkMusicGuy wrote:Check out Stew-Mac's kit for this:

Truss Rod Rescue Kit


Thanks for the reply. It seems like that kit is more for truss rods that are cross-threaded or broken. I don't think that's the case with this rod, I just think it's just missing the nut or other pieces necessary in order to get it moving again

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re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby Don » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:03 am

That looks like it might just need a nut. You might be able to determine what size the thread is by trying different nuts from the hardware store on it.
Ideally, it'd be nice if the brass nut designed for a Gibson fit.

Truss Rod Nuts at Stew Mac

There are cheaper sources than this.

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Re: re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby mj_brooks » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:27 am

Don wrote:That looks like it might just need a nut. You might be able to determine what size the thread is by trying different nuts from the hardware store on it.
Ideally, it'd be nice if the brass nut designed for a Gibson fit.

Truss Rod Nuts at Stew Mac

There are cheaper sources than this.


Thank you, I will try to see what fits and try those out.

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re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby Naked Ape » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:08 pm

It just needs a new (truss rod)nut, but......it will only be able to flatten neck to reduce the amount of relief. This is not a dual action truss rod, like on newer Carvin/Kiesel's. So, if the neck doesn't have excessive relief, or is bowed, the new (truss rod) nut will not help.
If the neck is too flat or bowed, you could try some heavier gauge strings, to increase the tension on the neck.
I am not trying to be negative, just helpful....as this might not be good news.
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Re: re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby Don » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:58 am

Naked Ape wrote:It just needs a new (truss rod)nut, but......it will only be able to flatten neck to reduce the amount of relief. I do not believe that is a dual action truss rod, like on newer Carvin/Kiesel's. So, if the neck doesn't have excessive relief, or is bowed, the new (truss rod) nut will not help.
If the neck is too flat or bowed, you could try some heavier gauge strings, to increase the tension on the neck.
I am not trying to be negative, just helpful....as this might not be good news.


Yes! True! Adding the nut will only allow you to get rid of excess relief.

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re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby vvaltsu » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:40 am

Did you figure out what the thread was or what kind of nut fits in there? I have a 1990 DC125 and the key socket of the nut has been stripped long since, but I've managed to turn the nut with a slot screwdriver. I thought I might as well replace the nut before I destroy it completely.
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Re: Carvin V220 with no truss rod nut?

Postby jasonpaq » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:43 am

I'm also interested, I have a 1992 DC127 with a stripped truss rod nut. I called Kiesel and the best I got was that a shop would know right away. I contacted a few shops and none have any idea.


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