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My ST300 Problems and solutions

Postby Alienadin » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:59 pm

Hi all,

even though I love how my ST300 plays and looks, it seems to be cursed or sth..

First, I had horrible tuning issues, which eventually were resolved, and that's fine now, but

1. My pickups have terrible hum. I have two Lithium humbuckers (passive electronics).
The first time I plugged it in, I immediately noticed it, and lowered the pickups a lot, but the issue has remained.
The 2nd and 4th positions are naturally the worst, as they are single coils, but no single coil that I have ever had was this noisy. And even the other 3 positions cause noticable hum at times. It seems to vary though.
Sometimes, the issue fades away, also in the single coil ones, but then returns again. It's a plague!
People have suggested a grounding issue.

Here's a video I have made to demonstrate my problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLRc6U9qSSo

I have provided some pics here for. Perhaps you can see sth. off.

2. Strings break very easily. I haven't broken a string in ages, but since this guitar, I have broken 2 e strings, 1 A string, and now a B string. That's not normal. I have the Wilkinson VS50 tremolo. I am guessing the edges are too sharp?
This is endlessly frustrating. I have been having to deal with these issues for over a month now.
I just want to play this guitar. I expect sth. for this price to work, not be a problem child. I know these things can happen, but I am nearly at my wits end.
I just moved, and it was absolutely horrible and terribly stressful, so I'd really like to focus on making music again.
I have 10 other guitars, 6 of which are electric guitars, and none, aside from the used '89 HM Strat (fixer upper) have caused me any grief.

Please help!
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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby arahobob » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:58 pm

Does the problem vary depending on where you are?
If you play there guitar in a different room / location / venue, does it still hum?
Are the outlet circuits tied in with the lighting circuits?

Is it with every amp? every cable?
Maybe a bad solder joint or bad pup?
Just trying to think of things that could do that.

Maybe take it to a guitar tech for a look over.
My lithium pups weren't like that at all.


My Bolt had a wilky - I had massive tuning issues with it. E, B, and G would go out all the time.
Not sure what you can do.
It wasn't the nut, the strings, the saddles, the set up. It was the edges (mine was a few years old when I got it). They got hung up whenever the bridge moved.

Replaced it with a gotoh and the problems are gone.


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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby baron55 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:11 pm

There is nothing wrong with your pickups, that noise you hear with single coils is 100% normal, you are playing single coils through high gain.....and that guitar is much quieter than most. Even with humbuckers you are going to get a little hiss.

That is why humbuckers were invented in the first place and that is why noise gates and noise suppression was invented. When you play into a high gain amp with hot pickups you will always get a little noise and hiss, that is the nature of the beast.

I kept watching your video and never really heard any noise that wasn't normal for the application. When you get hotter pickups they literally pickup more, they are more sensitive. Others made suggestions but I don't see any issues at all with what was shown in your video.

As for strings breaking. Could be strings and other things.

As for tuning issues, that is why Floyd rose came up with the locking tremelo, seriously. this was the biggest issue with trem guitars until floyd came up with the double locking system. the tuning issues come from 2 areas, one a floating trem must have the strings stretched properly then adjusted. Then the nut must be lubricated to minimize string bind. Locking tuners don't help much since most of the issues occur at the nut.

Look for some good videos on floating trem setup and they can help out quite a bit. There is quite a bit on info out there on the internet.
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Postby wickid » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:02 am


It seems to change when you spin in the chair. Is it worse when you face the monitor?
I would think a ground issue would be consistent??
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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby gmzachman » Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:13 am

Watched the video and it sounds like a IMAC bluetooth track pad and mouse. Mine make the same noise in my single coils if i sit in front of them.

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby Alienadin » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:37 am

arahobob wrote:Does the problem vary depending on where you are?
If you play there guitar in a different room / location / venue, does it still hum?
Are the outlet circuits tied in with the lighting circuits?

Is it with every amp? every cable?
Maybe a bad solder joint or bad pup?
Just trying to think of things that could do that.

Maybe take it to a guitar tech for a look over.
My lithium pups weren't like that at all.


My Bolt had a wilky - I had massive tuning issues with it. E, B, and G would go out all the time.
Not sure what you can do.
It wasn't the nut, the strings, the saddles, the set up. It was the edges (mine was a few years old when I got it). They got hung up whenever the bridge moved.

Replaced it with a gotoh and the problems are gone.


For what it's worth, fantastic playing!
:mrgreen:


Thanks for the post.

Well, it's less when I am not facting the amp, of course. I haven't really had a chance to try it anywhere else yet.

Are the outlet circuits tied in with the lighting circuits?
I don't know about that

I have tried the amp alone, without the G-System and Nova Drive, still the same.

Another power outlet too. Same thing.

I am convinced it's not the guitar, but the apartment. My HM Strat and every other guitar that has single coils have the same hum issues. And it comes and goes. Sometimes it's really quiet, sometimes like a helicopter.
Even in humbucker mode there is severe hum at times.
I went to a home depot store and told them of my problem, but they just said I should call an electrician.

Do you think a grounded power strip is the solution?

Which Gotoh did you replace your Wilky with, and was any additional work needed?

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby Alienadin » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:38 am

gmzachman wrote:Watched the video and it sounds like a IMAC bluetooth track pad and mouse. Mine make the same noise in my single coils if i sit in front of them.

GZ


I unplugged the USB, and took the batteries out of my mouse and keyboard. Didn't make any difference.
Thanks for the tip though.

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby arahobob » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:13 am

Alienadin wrote:Thanks for the post.


Are the outlet circuits tied in with the lighting circuits?
I don't know about that

I went to a home depot store and told them of my problem, but they just said I should call an electrician.

Do you think a grounded power strip is the solution?

Which Gotoh did you replace your Wilky with, and was any additional work needed?


I'm an electrician - at your service!
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Finding out if your outlets and lights are on the same circuit would be easy. Plug something into the outlet in question - say a lamp or a radio and turn it on. Turn on all the lights in the apartment. Turn off circuit breakers until it shuts off whatever you have plugged in, and see if the lights go out too. Some types of lighting / dimmers can be a problem in conjunction with outlets.

If the outlet is grounded then a grounded power strip shouldn't change much. You'd need a meter to check the power at your place.

There's a lot of hum cancelling products out there.
Maybe these - http://ebtechaudio.com/products.html
The HUM X might just do the trick (looks pretty cool)


My Gotoh is a 510ts-fe1 - I'm pretty sure it was just a drop in replacement.
I couldn't be happier with it.
Its a perfect unit. Zero tuning issues.
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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby Alienadin » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:57 am

arahobob wrote:I'm an electrician - at your service!
:mrgreen:

Finding out if your outlets and lights are on the same circuit would be easy. Plug something into the outlet in question - say a lamp or a radio and turn it on. Turn on all the lights in the apartment. Turn off circuit breakers until it shuts off whatever you have plugged in, and see if the lights go out too. Some types of lighting / dimmers can be a problem in conjunction with outlets.

If the outlet is grounded then a grounded power strip shouldn't change much. You'd need a meter to check the power at your place.

There's a lot of hum cancelling products out there.
Maybe these - http://ebtechaudio.com/products.html
The HUM X might just do the trick (looks pretty cool)


My Gotoh is a 510ts-fe1 - I'm pretty sure it was just a drop in replacement.
I couldn't be happier with it.
Its a perfect unit. Zero tuning issues.


Oh, thanks a bunch, mate. I will try that.

I may really need to get that HUM x from Ebtech. Thank you for the recommendation.

I will look into the tremolo should I have any more issues with the Wilky.

Many thanks.

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby Alienadin » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:40 am

I'm an electrician - at your service!
:mrgreen:

Finding out if your outlets and lights are on the same circuit would be easy. Plug something into the outlet in question - say a lamp or a radio and turn it on. Turn on all the lights in the apartment. Turn off circuit breakers until it shuts off whatever you have plugged in, and see if the lights go out too. Some types of lighting / dimmers can be a problem in conjunction with outlets.

If the outlet is grounded then a grounded power strip shouldn't change much. You'd need a meter to check the power at your place.

There's a lot of hum cancelling products out there.
Maybe these - http://ebtechaudio.com/products.html
The HUM X might just do the trick (looks pretty cool)


My Gotoh is a 510ts-fe1 - I'm pretty sure it was just a drop in replacement.
I couldn't be happier with it.
Its a perfect unit. Zero tuning issues.[/quote]

Can you be sure about the Gotoh tremolo? I am thinking of either getting a Wilkinso VS-100 or this one. I really like the way it looks.
Many thanks in advance.

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby arahobob » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:30 am

Alienadin wrote:My Gotoh is a 510ts-fe1 - I'm pretty sure it was just a drop in replacement.
I couldn't be happier with it.
Its a perfect unit. Zero tuning issues.

Can you be sure about the Gotoh tremolo? I am thinking of either getting a Wilkinso VS-100 or this one. I really like the way it looks.
Many thanks in advance.


I can try to reach out to the tech who installed it.
If I remember correctly, the ease of installation was part of the reason we went with that model vs say a super vee.
He chose the model for me based on his experience with them - Suhr used them too I believe.
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Postby Alienadin » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:04 pm

[/quote]

I can try to reach out to the tech who installed it.
If I remember correctly, the ease of installation was part of the reason we went with that model vs say a super vee.
He chose the model for me based on his experience with them - Suhr used them too I believe.[/quote]

That'd be much appreciated.

Can you do brutal stuff with that trem, or do you use it subtly?

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby arahobob » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:35 pm

Alienadin wrote:
I can try to reach out to the tech who installed it.
If I remember correctly, the ease of installation was part of the reason we went with that model vs say a super vee.
He chose the model for me based on his experience with them - Suhr used them too I believe.

That'd be much appreciated.

Can you do brutal stuff with that trem, or do you use it subtly?


Pretty extreme usage if I feel the need.
I'm not grabbing the bar, lifting it up in the air, and shaking the whole guitar a la Vai, but I can drop it all the way down till the strings go slack with decent stability.
My Floyd is probably more stable, but I've never worried about using the gotoh.
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Postby Alienadin » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:16 am

arahobob wrote:
Alienadin wrote:
I can try to reach out to the tech who installed it.
If I remember correctly, the ease of installation was part of the reason we went with that model vs say a super vee.
He chose the model for me based on his experience with them - Suhr used them too I believe.

That'd be much appreciated.

Can you do brutal stuff with that trem, or do you use it subtly?


Pretty extreme usage if I feel the need.
I'm not grabbing the bar, lifting it up in the air, and shaking the whole guitar a la Vai, but I can drop it all the way down till the strings go slack with decent stability.
My Floyd is probably more stable, but I've never worried about using the gotoh.


That's great to hear. Does it have knife edges?

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby UnexplodedCow » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:26 am

I have a bunch of computer equipment, water pumps, about 50 other people with wifi in my immediate area, and I suspect a funky power grid.

What arahobob linked to can work, and internally should be an inductor, with some capacitors to filter out electrical noise. Many PC power supplies have this feature to help clean up the power beyond the norm.

With my own stuff, I use a power regulator, which conditions the incoming power, and keeps the voltage stable. I still get random buzzing if I face specific directions. I think it's just how the EMI/radio signals are here. It's annoying, but I can live with it.

Also, if your monitors have a CCFL bulb, then that will likely contribute to your noise issues.
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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby MatiasTolkki » Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:51 am

I still cant believe people actually have concerns about Gotoh products. Gotoh have the best parts on the planet, MIJ.

I think Jeff's bashing of "Asian" countries is starting to influence the image of Japanese-made, high quality products. It's starting to really piss me off.
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Postby Alienadin » Wed May 03, 2017 5:33 am

MatiasTolkki wrote:I still cant believe people actually have concerns about Gotoh products. Gotoh have the best parts on the planet, MIJ.

I think Jeff's bashing of "Asian" countries is starting to influence the image of Japanese-made, high quality products. It's starting to really piss me off.


Who is having concerns about Gotoh products?

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Re: Is my guitar cursed? Problems with my ST300

Postby Alienadin » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:45 am

Hi, it's been 10 months now, and I guess I was really stressed out with the move and everything, so I overreacted.
Also, it was my first custom shop guitar.

Anyways, I would like to say that I am totally in love with my ST300. The Wilkinson bridge is very stable after using Big Ben's nut sauce. It's such a beauty and it plays like a dream.

About to order my second Kiesel. Just wanted to let everybody know that I am very happy with my guitar, and the only thing I don't love about it is the weight, which is a bit much, but nothing crazy.
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