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Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby tcamuso » Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:59 am

Just received my new SCB6, and it is an amazing guitar. The workmanship and hardware are extraordinary.

Only complaint is that I had to raise the action for the high-E and B strings when I received it in order to eliminate some fret buzz. I'm wondering if there is some other adjustment I can make to lower the action on those two strings without those strings clanking against the frets.

The bridge is a hipshot tremolo, if that makes a difference.

Neck is one-piece with ebony fretboard.

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:35 am

There could be several things that could be adjusted to eliminate buzz. Without having the guitar on a bench, it's hard to say for sure what the issue and correct solution could be:
- Neck relief isn't quite right (truss rod). If you've just received it, it's come from southern california to where ever you are in a truck, and it's a "fresh" guitar. Some short period of adjustment can be expected. Also, truss rod adjustments take time to "settle", even fine ones.
- Individual string height (saddles on bridge)
- Trem cavity spring claw to tweak the angle of thebridge if it isn't where it's supposed to be.
- The bridge itself not level (trem posts)

If none of those solve the issue satisfactorily, then the problem may be manufacture:
- High frets
- nut cut too deeply

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby tcamuso » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:50 am

First, MANY thanks for the response!
spudmunkey wrote:There could be several things that could be adjusted to eliminate buzz. Without having the guitar on a bench, it's hard to say for sure what the issue and correct solution could be:
- Neck relief isn't quite right (truss rod). If you've just received it, it's come from southern california to where ever you are in a truck, and it's a "fresh" guitar. Some short period of adjustment can be expected. Also, truss rod adjustments take time to "settle", even fine ones.

I'm in New Hampshire, so it was a 6-day truck ride from sunny and dry So. Cal to hot and humid No. New England. Obviously, it would make no sense to send it back for adjustment.

Are there any Kiesel authorized or approved techs in New England?

spudmunkey wrote: - Individual string height (saddles on bridge)

Yes, I did this to adjust the high-E and B-strings. They are the only strings that exhibited this buzz.

spudmunkey wrote: - Trem cavity spring claw to tweak the angle of thebridge if it isn't where it's supposed to be.

Is there a spec that describes a procedure for this adjustment?

spudmunkey wrote: - The bridge itself not level (trem posts)

Again, a spec would be handy.

spudmunkey wrote:If none of those solve the issue satisfactorily, then the problem may be manufacture:
- High frets
- nut cut too deeply

Both of thse can be fixed by a competent tech. However, since the frets are "Gold" (CuSn15Fe1Ti0.1), would fretwork require a guitar tech who is accomplished with that material?

In any event, I'd like to find a Kiesel-approved guitar tech in the area.

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby tcamuso » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:00 pm

Okay.

So, when in doubt, always read the manual. :mrgreen:

From MAINTENANCE AND ADJUSTMENT PROCEDURES FOR Carvin GUITARS
http://www.kieselguitars.com/manuals/Guitar_Care.pdf

Note: If you have just received your Carvin
guitar and the string action is very low with
buzzing frets, then chances are the neck needs
adjusting because of a backbowed condition
sometimes caused during shipping. If this is
the case then remove the truss rod cover with
a small phillips screwdriver. Turn the truss rod
counter clockwise until you have .010” forward
bow. This is about the thickness of a playing
card.


So, I followed the instructions in the manual, and the guitar is now PERFECT.

Imagine that. :P

Thanks for your patience with me.

This guitar is just AMAZING!

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:37 pm

:applause:

Sorry I couldn't answer your questions any better, but I'm glad it worked out!
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby tcamuso » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:06 am

spudmunkey wrote::applause:

Sorry I couldn't answer your questions any better, but I'm glad it worked out!
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:


Actually, it was you who first pointed out that the long trip to a different climate was bound to have an effect and that adjustments should be made.

The manual agrees with you and presents a process for doing it.

I want to thank you again for taking the time and trouble to reply to me.

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby Pall Mall » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:42 am

I had a nice Satriani model and no adjustment would take away fret buzz on the 5th and 4th strings. The only adjustment I did not tweak was the nut depth. It had to be the nut. I got tired of it and sold it. The lutheir told me the nut was okay but I have a hunch it was not. He told me it may be buzzing some but it's not coming through the amp. Too bad... I can't stand that sound even if its not coming thru the amp

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby relias7505 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:19 am

I will be adjusting my neck on my Bolt for feet buzz. Wish me luck!!
My Kiesel/Carvin collection: ST300 (M22SD bridge, S60A middle, Twin Blade neck), SCB6 (S22B bridge, S22J neck), Bolt Classic (AP11's in all positions), SH550 (S22T in the neck and bridge), AC375 and CL450. Also a Carvin V3M 50watt head with a Carvin 1x12 cabinet and Fender Jazz Bass.

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Re: Fret Buzz on new SCB6

Postby ElfDude » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:50 am

Glad it all worked out!
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