Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Greg Emm » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:54 pm

spudmunkey wrote:I kinda want a CT3 with a plain maple top in aurora.


I kinda do, too, now. :oops:

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:16 pm

And now I want to see a JB5 with BBE.

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby spudmunkey » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 am

And now I want to see a BEM fretless with the trans color shift paint under HAN. :laughhard:

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby UnexplodedCow » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:21 am

spudmunkey wrote:And now I want to see a BEM fretless with the trans color shift paint under HAN. :laughhard:


Make it multiscale and you might get my interest :P
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby arahobob » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:05 pm

This evening's kiesel musings

The Vader bridge is really a clever thing. Such a simple design that works well. Easy string changes for a locking system, and no, my screws don't stick out on the tuners and my strings are cut flush!!
The new strings are the only thing that could entice me away from my scb6.

Which leads me to thought number 2.
I'm glad I didn't order an scb when they came out. After multiple builds over the years I really figured out what I wanted to do with the scb. I put all of my favorite / dream options into one guitar and it just kicks ass.
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby DWG » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:57 am

Options, Options, Options! I'm happy but UGH!

While I am happy about Kiesel's vast array of options, configurations, colors, finishes, etc...

I'm feeling a bit frustrated about the growing "In-and-Out Burger" secret menu. Each month there are more variations on things that are available to us but there is really no way to get your arms around everything. I know the answer is to "call my guys" but, even when I do call, they aren't going to have the time to just suggest everything.

I'd be happy with a current color guide that listed all colors, paint options, and finishes.

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:27 am

I agree. Even if they just had a single page that was just "custom gallery" that was simply a single image of things, with a brief-enough description to know what to ask for.

In other news, I kinda want a DC600 or Aries in black-on-hot-pink (or red-purple color shift or Tropical Turquise) crackle with a reverse pointy headstock, all black hardware, Floyd, and Abalone logo with a flamed maple fretboard and black dot inlays.

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Bob77 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:12 am

What is the significance of having Jeff sign a guitar? What does it really mean? Also...why not have his father sign them also? (Honest and curious questions)

I've seen some guitars come up for sale (used) with Jeff's signature; usually the limited runs. Sellers try to use the signature as a selling point, but I really wonder if that signature actually hinders the sale even more because. It might not really mean much to people out there that are not familiar with the "brand."

I know Paul Reed Smith signs some of his high end guitars...but the guitars actually have his entire name to begin with LOL - and he founded the company.
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:18 am

Bob77 wrote:What is the significance of having Jeff sign a guitar? What does it really mean? Also...why not have his father sign them also? (Honest and curious questions)

I've seen some guitars come up for sale (used) with Jeff's signature; usually the limited runs. Sellers try to use the signature as a selling point, but I really wonder if that signature actually hinders the sale even more because. It might not really mean much to people out there that are not familiar with the "brand."

I know Paul Reed Smith signs some of his high end guitars...but the guitars actually have his entire name to begin with LOL - and he founded the company.


Certain things were his and he's the "face" of the company. It's worth something to some, and not to others. That said, there are also people who put in their ads, "I had this guitar built/customized to my specs of Carvin's Custom Shop" as if their's was some how different than 99% of the guitars they sell. :lol: To those who are unfamiliar with the company, having it signed by someone with the name of the company is probably somehow cool.

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Bob77 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:16 am

That makes sense.

and yea..everything they make is custom one way or the other so no need to make a big deal out of it trying to boost a sale :lol:

Jeff is certainly the face of the company. Have to say, met him once at the old factory location and he is a super cool person to talk to. Very personable and really pays attention to customers. There was a bunch of people in the show room but he managed to spend time talking with everybody for as long as they needed to.
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby gumbynotpokey » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:08 pm

Bob77 wrote:What is the significance of having Jeff sign a guitar? What does it really mean? Also...why not have his father sign them also? (Honest and curious questions)

I've seen some guitars come up for sale (used) with Jeff's signature; usually the limited runs. Sellers try to use the signature as a selling point, but I really wonder if that signature actually hinders the sale even more because. It might not really mean much to people out there that are not familiar with the "brand."

I know Paul Reed Smith signs some of his high end guitars...but the guitars actually have his entire name to begin with LOL - and he founded the company.


Dig the first post pics on this NGD thread.

I had Jeff sign the back plate of the latest build for the youngest. It was his 25th and just wanted to do something special. No biggie. We all dig this company and have builds. Jeff signing was cool, just to have that.

One of the neatest things I ever saw was a build years ago (a rather plain one) where the buyer had every single person in the factory who worked on the axe sign the back. Jeff and Mark did too. Then they clearcoated over it. VERY cool touch for all those sigs. To each their own, eh? :)
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Bob77 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:26 am

Having everybody that worked on a guitar sign it would be really cool!
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:03 am

I agree...even if it were just a sheet that comes with (hopefully an updated) instruction/care sheet.


In other random thoughts...

Haven't seen a cracked top in a while.

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Doctor Doug » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:26 pm

Bob77 wrote:What is the significance of having Jeff sign a guitar? What does it really mean? Also...why not have his father sign them also? (Honest and curious questions)


What's the significance of having anybody sign anything?

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:45 pm

It depends...is it an autograph in the lower right corner of a check? :lol:

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Bob77 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:19 pm

Doctor Doug wrote:
Bob77 wrote:What is the significance of having Jeff sign a guitar? What does it really mean? Also...why not have his father sign them also? (Honest and curious questions)


What's the significance of having anybody sign anything?


The value - both historically and financially - that would add to the instrument.

Was trying to gauge from people here what was their view on that as it relates to Jeff signing a guitar.
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:29 pm

If it was a Kiesel Edition where he actually worked on it, I could see the sentimental value of it.

On my Aries, he just picked out the body wood. In that case, i didn't ask for it, and don't really think it was warranted.

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:48 pm

I don't think anyone could really say that his signature would add a penny of value to the instrument, but rather just a fun thing for a dude who feels so strongly about the perfection of his Instrument that he wants the maker to sign it like an artwork. I think it's something that younger guys generally do.
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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby Doctor Doug » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:18 pm

Bob77 wrote:
Doctor Doug wrote:
Bob77 wrote:What is the significance of having Jeff sign a guitar? What does it really mean? Also...why not have his father sign them also? (Honest and curious questions)


What's the significance of having anybody sign anything?


The value - both historically and financially - that would add to the instrument.

Was trying to gauge from people here what was their view on that as it relates to Jeff signing a guitar.


For someone who idolize guitar builders in the way that others idolize musicians and the like, it makes sense.

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Re: Kiesel Random Thoughts (not worth their own thread)

Postby UnexplodedCow » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:12 am

It's a neat thing, I suppose. It would not make or break a sale if I were buying, but I liken it to having case candy, or those who kept their old postcards for build date estimates. Won't hurt the value, but won't improve it, either.
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