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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Tue May 22, 2018 9:12 am

gumbynotpokey wrote:treble boost vs bass cut, etc......

that is to say, what the knob actually DOES vs what it is called


That's real slippery slope when it comes to the "tone" knob.

"Hmmm, do I want to increase, or decrease my tone? Why would I ever want less tone? Why do we even have these silly pots to decrease tone? UGH!"
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue May 22, 2018 12:56 pm

Well, it's pretty universal, at least us older people can remember when Tone knobs where on everything from home stereo systems to musical instruments to car portable units. I guess it's more of a 1 band EQ.

I would say it's the same as a volume knob--this here place is where the volume adjusted. That there place is where the tone is adjusted... seems to make sense.

Like phase vs polarity ... cracks me up when dudes step in to "correct" people.. the subtext is more, "You don't have as precise an apprehension of guitar terminology as I do, and I shall now prove it by donning my cape and correcting you, with a grand flourish as penny rockets fire in the air around me, in an area that requires no correction!"

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby ElfDude » Tue May 22, 2018 1:08 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:
Like phase vs polarity ... cracks me up when dudes step in to "correct" people.. the subtext is more, "You don't have as precise an apprehension of guitar terminology as I do, and I shall now prove it by donning my cape and correcting you, with a grand flourish as penny rockets fire in the air around me, in an area that requires no correction!"


if that's how my post came off then I sincerely apologize.
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Tue May 22, 2018 2:04 pm

ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:
Like phase vs polarity ... cracks me up when dudes step in to "correct" people.. the subtext is more, "You don't have as precise an apprehension of guitar terminology as I do, and I shall now prove it by donning my cape and correcting you, with a grand flourish as penny rockets fire in the air around me, in an area that requires no correction!"


if that's how my post came off then I sincerely apologize.


I'm not. :laughhard:
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue May 22, 2018 3:02 pm

ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:
Like phase vs polarity ... cracks me up when dudes step in to "correct" people.. the subtext is more, "You don't have as precise an apprehension of guitar terminology as I do, and I shall now prove it by donning my cape and correcting you, with a grand flourish as penny rockets fire in the air around me, in an area that requires no correction!"


if that's how my post came off then I sincerely apologize.

Not at all! There's nothing to apologize for! :D In fact you actually said:

I maintain that there's nothing wrong with calling it a phase switch. By reversing the polarity of one of the pickups we put their respective output waveforms out of phase with each other. The resulting thin nasal tone is caused by phase cancellation.


UnexplodedCow wrote:I'm not.


Not what? Apologizing? That wasn't the goal of my post-- it's not that serious. I'm just adding my own peeves--which is when the impulse to correct in a mincing manner goes overboard, correcting nonexistent errors.

Ironically these are the pockets of the guitar world where erroneous claims and misinformation seem to flourish the most. :lol:
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Wed May 23, 2018 6:30 am

Elfdude wrote that he was sorry if his post came off wrong. I was quoting him, specifically, to say that I wasn't sorry if his post came off wrong. I treat almost nothing on this forum as extremely serious, because so much is lost in text.

'Tis okay, Turn, I forgive you :P (again, massive joke, as there's nothing to forgive, and this explanation kind of kills it, and yet is a joke in its own turn. Pun intended.)
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby ElfDude » Wed May 23, 2018 9:02 am

Doctor Turn wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:
Like phase vs polarity ... cracks me up when dudes step in to "correct" people.. the subtext is more, "You don't have as precise an apprehension of guitar terminology as I do, and I shall now prove it by donning my cape and correcting you, with a grand flourish as penny rockets fire in the air around me, in an area that requires no correction!"


if that's how my post came off then I sincerely apologize.

Not at all! There's nothing to apologize for! :D In fact you actually said:

I maintain that there's nothing wrong with calling it a phase switch. By reversing the polarity of one of the pickups we put their respective output waveforms out of phase with each other. The resulting thin nasal tone is caused by phase cancellation.


UnexplodedCow wrote:I'm not.


Not what? Apologizing? That wasn't the goal of my post-- it's not that serious. I'm just adding my own peeves--which is when the impulse to correct in a mincing manner goes overboard, correcting nonexistent errors.

Ironically these are the pockets of the guitar world where erroneous claims and misinformation seem to flourish the most. :lol:


Oh... you were talking about the guys who say, "It's not a phase switch! It's a polarity switch! You're all a bunch of idiots!"
Cool. 8)
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Wed May 23, 2018 10:37 am

ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:
Like phase vs polarity ... cracks me up when dudes step in to "correct" people.. the subtext is more, "You don't have as precise an apprehension of guitar terminology as I do, and I shall now prove it by donning my cape and correcting you, with a grand flourish as penny rockets fire in the air around me, in an area that requires no correction!"


if that's how my post came off then I sincerely apologize.

Not at all! There's nothing to apologize for! :D In fact you actually said:

I maintain that there's nothing wrong with calling it a phase switch. By reversing the polarity of one of the pickups we put their respective output waveforms out of phase with each other. The resulting thin nasal tone is caused by phase cancellation.


UnexplodedCow wrote:I'm not.


Not what? Apologizing? That wasn't the goal of my post-- it's not that serious. I'm just adding my own peeves--which is when the impulse to correct in a mincing manner goes overboard, correcting nonexistent errors.

Ironically these are the pockets of the guitar world where erroneous claims and misinformation seem to flourish the most. :lol:


Oh... you were talking about the guys who say, "It's not a phase switch! It's a polarity switch! You're all a bunch of idiots!"
Cool. 8)


I respectfully state that, in my own opinion (citing my signature phrase below as reference on opinions), that we *all* are a idiots, and I'm including myself in that all. The only true wisdom consists of knowing that you know nothing...or something thereabouts that some old Greek philosopher once said.
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby ElfDude » Wed May 23, 2018 11:31 am

UnexplodedCow wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
Doctor Turn wrote:
Like phase vs polarity ... cracks me up when dudes step in to "correct" people.. the subtext is more, "You don't have as precise an apprehension of guitar terminology as I do, and I shall now prove it by donning my cape and correcting you, with a grand flourish as penny rockets fire in the air around me, in an area that requires no correction!"


if that's how my post came off then I sincerely apologize.

Not at all! There's nothing to apologize for! :D In fact you actually said:

I maintain that there's nothing wrong with calling it a phase switch. By reversing the polarity of one of the pickups we put their respective output waveforms out of phase with each other. The resulting thin nasal tone is caused by phase cancellation.


UnexplodedCow wrote:I'm not.


Not what? Apologizing? That wasn't the goal of my post-- it's not that serious. I'm just adding my own peeves--which is when the impulse to correct in a mincing manner goes overboard, correcting nonexistent errors.

Ironically these are the pockets of the guitar world where erroneous claims and misinformation seem to flourish the most. :lol:


Oh... you were talking about the guys who say, "It's not a phase switch! It's a polarity switch! You're all a bunch of idiots!"
Cool. 8)


I respectfully state that, in my own opinion (citing my signature phrase below as reference on opinions), that we *all* are a idiots, and I'm including myself in that all. The only true wisdom consists of knowing that you know nothing...or something thereabouts that some old Greek philosopher once said.


Well, yeah. 8)
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Wed May 23, 2018 12:01 pm

Just so we're all clear, the confusion was not of intent, but more about who was talking to who, right?

The "I sincerely apologize" followed by "I'm not" threw me for a loop, too. :lol:

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby gumbynotpokey » Thu May 24, 2018 3:38 pm

Ok, so pressing on..............

Bassists know that generally, guitarists love to say, "Hey, I can do that".

If you consider this deeply, you'll realize that I am saying the enthusiastic claim is often not true - aka "wrong".

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Thu May 24, 2018 3:55 pm

Has "You're the worst guitarist in the band, so you get to be the bassplayer" ever worked out? (not counting Lemmy Kilmister, because he transcends this sort of thing. :lol:

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby gumbynotpokey » Thu May 24, 2018 6:36 pm

spudmunkey wrote:Has "You're the worst guitarist in the band, so you get to be the bassplayer" ever worked out? (not counting Lemmy Kilmister, because he transcends this sort of thing. :lol:


no, because seemingly every bad guitarist is willing to humiliate themselves by playing bass badly
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:10 am

Something I've seen lately when people ask about getting rid of shiny spots on their satin and raw tone satin finishes, is people using "buff" in their advice on how to fix it...

But "buff" means "to polish to a shine", which is what got them in this mess in the first place. :lol:

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:17 am

Here's something I got WAY wrong. I was probably 12 or 13 and just starting to realize that I'd like to get a guitar. I thought the tremolo arm was called an acoustical bar.

And yes, I say tremolo because that's what Leo Fender called it! :mrgreen:

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:37 am

Brock wrote:Here's something I got WAY wrong. I was probably 12 or 13 and just starting to realize that I'd like to get a guitar. I thought the tremolo arm was called an acoustical bar.


You've sent me down a weird google rabbit hole...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DymgAUzpG8M

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:02 am

I was a visionary and didn't know it!

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:13 am

spudmunkey wrote:
Brock wrote:Here's something I got WAY wrong. I was probably 12 or 13 and just starting to realize that I'd like to get a guitar. I thought the tremolo arm was called an acoustical bar.


You've sent me down a weird google rabbit hole...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DymgAUzpG8M


Next up; double-locking Floyd style on an acoustic. The overall design looks simple enough, but I'd imagine it would still rob some vibrations due to what's needed to keep it from breaking.
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:56 am

The rabbit hole gets weirder...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rstnOz1EmQ

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:24 am

I'm afraid to ask what's next.


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