What are some words guitar players get wrong?

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:26 am

A minimalist acoustic, fanned fret, headless. Right?
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:07 pm

ha! Sounds about right.

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby wickid » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:11 pm

spudmunkey wrote:
Brock wrote:Here's something I got WAY wrong. I was probably 12 or 13 and just starting to realize that I'd like to get a guitar. I thought the tremolo arm was called an acoustical bar.


You've sent me down a weird google rabbit hole...

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:06 pm

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby ElfDude » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:03 am

If those are nylon strings...
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby wickid » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:11 am

spudmunkey wrote:Image


This makes me think of the movie "Scott Pilgrim vs the World" (which has been played to death on HBO lately).
Some decent grung-y tounge-in-cheek tunes in that flick (Take a ride, in my garbage truck ... truck truck truck truck ... :lol: ).
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:28 am

ElfDude wrote:If those are nylon strings...


My favorite part is the pickup selector switch that goes between page and Hendrix, paired with a random Jackson humbucker. Definitely some quality craftsmanship around that single-coil pickup route as well.

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:23 am

It's brilliant if you think about it. No more switching guitars in a set...really you only need one guitar. Perfect! :mrgreen:

I bet there's some terrible feedback when the amp is cranked.

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby ElfDude » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:38 am

Brock wrote:It's brilliant if you think about it. No more switching guitars in a set...really you only need one guitar. Perfect! :mrgreen:


Exactly my thoughts in 2002 as I ordered my AE185. 8)
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:46 am

ElfDude wrote:
Brock wrote:It's brilliant if you think about it. No more switching guitars in a set...really you only need one guitar. Perfect! :mrgreen:


Exactly my thoughts in 2002 as I ordered my AE185. 8)


But does yours have that DIY vibe?

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:47 am

spudmunkey wrote:Image


This one does have an acoustical bar. I knew they existed somewhere!

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:08 am

I'm actually really curious if it actually works, of if they literally just drilled a hole in the bridge and slid in the trem arm. :lol: "You get get a really really subtle vibrato from flexing the soundboard...that is, until the bridge glue gives out."

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Brock » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:21 am

It kinda looks like it could work, but....yea, probably just flex the soundboard until something goes snap, crackle and pop.

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Casual Madman » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:42 am

spudmunkey wrote:My favorite part is the pickup selector switch that goes between page and Hendrix ...


I need one of thiose that goes from BB to ZZ.

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Treadplatedual » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:48 am

That guitar hurts my heart.

So much.

Hey, back to OP's question: how about things like "noiseless pickups (if a pickup made no noise...isn't it broken?)," "fanned frets help with intonation" or "tone woods?"

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:08 am

Weeeeeeeeell...fanned frets do help with intonation. Well...they can. And it's not the fanned frets itself, it's the nature of the longer scale.

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If you are trying to downtune, and to retain tension you go with thicker and thicker strings, it's common to run out of travel on your saddles before you can get to proper intonation. Going with multiscale gives you the longer scale you'd need to go with skinnier strings which should be easier to intonate. :mrgreen:

With all that said, I know exactly what you mean because I see people all the time post about multiscale in a way that makes it sound like they think it's supposed to be like True Temperament frets.

I do like the "noiseless pickups" one, too. Ha!

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:11 am

Ooh! One I heard about a week ago, but was just reminded that I should post it here.

I was at GC, trying to peek at the used pedal case which is under the cash registers, and the person in front of me at the register was asking the employee about a "buffer" pedal. When the employee said he didn't have any in-stock but that some pedals had a built-in buffer, the customer then asked, "Is it true bypass?"

A true bypass buffer, eh? :roll: :laughhard:

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:07 pm

I would say those are not as much incorrect nomenclature as they are inaccurate concept descriptions.

One man's noise is another man's music, so a "noiseless" pickup is subjective. Perhaps "noise-filtering" or "noise cancelling" is a better term in any case, though, technically "noiseless" is a combination of "noise" and"less" meaning less noise, which would also be true. Somehow, though, our modern lexicon understanding has been molded to a point of some words having a potentially different, or singular meaning, instead of the intended original meaning.

To tangent, we often miss the concept, or purpose, of an instrument. Think of those who see a Floyd Rose as only useful for dive-bombs and "EVH" style "acrobatics." Not true. It can do subtle as well. That is just one example of a preconceived notion of an instrument's design precluding it from use in other styles of music. Let's look at "jazz boxes." Lovely misnomer, as a hollow-body can be used in a live and high-gain situation (for rock and metal, perhaps), though controlling feedback is much more difficult. Make way for the solid-body guitar, which is far less prone to such things. Then pot the pickups to further reduce feedback potential.

As for a missing-the-concept, as well as incorrect nomenclature, I present the word "gain." That word is often misused to actually mean "distortion," when that is not true, especially in many preamp and pedal designs.

Yeah, I love "true bypass," or "true hardwire bypass," or "true buffered hardwire, black hole, gated bypass." We live in a world of marketing gunk, and so much of what we perceive is beyond simply subjective. In these times, I'm glad to see many designs, so people can really home in (not "hone in" as we are not talking about honing skills, or blades) on their sound. Sadly, it also makes for option paralysis, or just plain bad decisions.

What about "authentic vintage style?" What in the heck is that supposed to be? Authentic is supposed to mean "genuine." So, it's genuine vintage style? Um. What? It sounds like something old? I could go on about this one all day long, but am definitely ranting by now, so I'll save some for later :P

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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby Treadplatedual » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:00 pm

LOL cow, I like the way you think!

The only "true bypass" is setting your pedals on the floor, then passing the lead over them and plugging directly into your amp. :D
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Re: What are some words guitar players get wrong?

Postby spudmunkey » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:35 pm

Treadplatedual wrote:The only "true bypass" is setting your pedals on the floor, then passing the lead over them and plugging directly into your amp. :D


The Altoids tin on my pedalboard is true bypass, then. :laughhard:


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