Xcellerator model on it's way out

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Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:04 pm

Based on Jeff's comments in today's live video, "If you've ever wanted an Xcellerator, they are going to be discontinued so get one while you can. You have been warned!"

While it's one of Jeff's own early designs, and he still really likes it, it just hasn't proven itself to be as successful as he had hoped, so it's going to be retired sometime soon.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Bass Viking » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:02 am

That's a shame but I'm not surprised to hear that they haven't been selling, I look at YouTube demos and most of them seem to be mine! It's a great bass and I'm glad I got one while they were available.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby tbonesullivan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:56 am

Maybe it just wasn't different enough? Or maybe people just like the other series better. It's often hard to tell what will sell well and what won't. I've seen other companies discontinue great guitars, because they just didn't catch on.
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby kreider204 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:59 pm

Wow, glad I ordered one last week! :D

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby arahobob » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:12 pm

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Praiser » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:10 am

Sorry to hear this, but not really surprised.
Every time I pick up my X54 fretless, I'm absolutely blown away by how well it plays.
Really a fantastic instrument that has singlehandedly stopped my GAS for Fretless 5ers.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby kreider204 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:22 am

On the video, Jeff said something about people finding it too ... pointy? I forget exactly how he put it. It seems to me that the body is pretty straightforward. I wonder if more headstock options would have helped sales. Ah well!

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby SEANZILLA » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:47 am

I've never had the chance to handle one, but they always looked a little awkward to me. It looks like an LB that has a bit of body modification. I can't remember the last time I saw one of the daily FB walkthrough. On a side note, I've noticed that basses on the bottom of the page always seem to be the next one of the chopping block.
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Greg Emm » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:50 am

A really nice purple quilt X44 showed up on the FB feed about a week ago:

https://www.facebook.com/kieselguitars/ ... =3&theater

The builds I have seen over the last year or so have been really nice. It's a really comfortable bass, but I can see why players would overlook it for another model. That upper rabbit ear takes some getting used to. Hate to see it go, just the same.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:19 am

For it, it seemed "off" from the get go, how the upper horn got visually narrower and then wider again. One someone pointed out the Bugs Bunny ear, I couldn't un-see it.

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There were a lot of great-looking bases, though. When it was released, I was pleased to see a bass with a BBE sort of body edge. I'm surprised it didn't prove to be all that popular.

Were any options limited on it that you could get readily on other models?

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby kreider204 » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:59 am

I can't think of an options specific to the X that you couldn't get on something else. For me, it was a combination of options and aesthetics - I just think it looks super cool. :)

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gpbarnett » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:45 pm

FWIW, I think the Icon looks great with a pointy headstock.

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Postby Dometalican » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:51 am

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:22 am

Sounds like you need to bump it up a few places... Or get another job. :-p if my recent experience is anything to go by, ripping people off on Craigslist must be worthwhile. Someone tried ripping me off on $2k in just one transaction. :roll:

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby TTW » Tue May 08, 2018 4:46 am

Puu, I'm happy to have one. The Xccelerator is the most beautiful Kiesel bass to my taste. I love my X54. I ask myself, why headless basses are so popular nowadays :roll:

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby twilightdusk » Fri May 11, 2018 5:49 pm

Bummer it is crawling out the door, my X54 is an incredible instrument ears n all( :lol: dammit Spud!); it is a definite keeper. Not vintage looking, not going to impale people with the body shape, much more aggressive than dad rock. I felt (and apparently not many others) it was a perfect ground...

As far as the model's low sales was it due to bassists being more traditionalists than guitarists, the instrument being far less represented in the genre of players its looks were trying to capture, always being at the bottom of the custom shop page, not THAT differing from current offerings and/or what combinations thereof? :think:
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Catman10 » Sat May 12, 2018 4:01 pm

Well, so sorry to hear that it’s on it’s way out. I love my X64. The only thing I could ever say against it is the body is a bit less contoured than the others they put out. It took me a little while to get used to it. When it came out, it was the only bass that you could get the SCP on other than the PB series. Now with the ability to get builds with just about any pickup combination, that uniqueness has gone. And I love the pointy headstock on mine!!

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun May 13, 2018 1:51 pm

Not to thread hijack but does anyone know if the distance from the nut to the center of the split pu at the neck position of the aries is in the classic P position?

And back on topic will the aries continue to have the xcellertor headstock as standard?
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Greg Emm » Sun May 13, 2018 4:56 pm

gumbynotpokey wrote:... does anyone know if the distance from the nut to the center of the split pu at the neck position of the aries is in the classic P position?


It's 10.5 inches from the 12th fret to the split between the coils. So about .5 inch closer to the neck than the classic PB position.

gumbynotpokey wrote:And back on topic will the aries continue to have the xcellertor headstock as standard?


Mike Bass's AB4 has the inline (LB70) headstock. And I've seen reverse Xccelerator headstocks on some Aries basses, even though this option's not on the Aries bass builder. Since it's a bolt-on model, I reckon you could select a headstock.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun May 13, 2018 7:43 pm

Greg Emm wrote:
gumbynotpokey wrote:... does anyone know if the distance from the nut to the center of the split pu at the neck position of the aries is in the classic P position?


It's 10.5 inches from the 12th fret to the split between the coils. So about .5 inch closer to the neck than the classic PB position.


.5 inch closer than the classic P made by Fen#*r?
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