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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:45 am

It does seem that the longer scale would benefit from the longer horn, for reach comfort. They did the Zeus just because it sells multiples more than the Osiris, but I, too, think I would prefer an Osiris...but I'm not buying either, so my $0.02 ain't worth much more than that.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby Toptube » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:24 pm

The Zeus multiscale seems to be selling pretty well (based on my perception from looking at FB every day).

I wouldn't be surprised if later this year, we get either an Osiris MS, a whole new body shape meant for MS, or both.

However, what I really want is for Kiesel to drive the price down. The price premium on these is a bit much. I mean, I know they spent many thousands on design and production for the bridge and the longer radiused pickups. But, it would be great if they could subsidize the cost with their guitars or something. These are $300 more than their regular counterparts. And that makes it real tough to afford even some modest options.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby spudmunkey » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:48 pm

In case it helps anything, the pricing on guitars is all over the place. On an Aries, it's a $200 premium from standard to multiscale. $150 on the DC600. $250 on the K series, for some reason... :wall:

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby 5StringPocket » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:20 am

I'm still mulling over a ZBM5 build and have settled on an alder body with quilt maple top in deep lava, ebony board, and radium single coils with a series/parallel switch. I prefer the 60's position bridge coil over 70's and found that Kiesel keeps the same bridge pickup route but uses a north side position for 60's and south side position for 70's with position indicated by a green or purple dot. I forget which color for 60's but would like to know if this is correct and can be specified with the order.

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I found this Facebook link posted elsewhere in this forum which answers the question at about 2:40 in. Jeff said that 60's position is the default for single coils. 70's position has to be asked for and the bridge pickup will have a purple dot which indicates the coil is located along the side closest to the bridge - cool.
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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby Toptube » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:28 am

5StringPocket wrote:I'm still mulling over a ZBM5 build and have settled on an alder body with quilt maple top in deep lava, ebony board, and radium single coils with a series/parallel switch. I prefer the 60's position bridge coil over 70's and found that Kiesel keeps the same bridge pickup route but uses a north side position for 60's and south side position for 70's with position indicated by a green or purple dot. I forget which color for 60's but would like to know if this is correct and can be specified with the order.

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I found this Facebook link posted elsewhere in this forum which answers the question at about 2:40 in. Jeff said that 60's position is the default for single coils. 70's position has to be asked for and the bridge pickup will have a purple dot which indicates the coil is located along the side closest to the bridge - cool.
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Lava quilt looks so good

Natural back/bevel or Lava on all of it? 3 piece body for the little trim piece around the bevel?

Yes and you can flip the pickup if you want to try the 70's position.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby 5StringPocket » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:34 pm

I'd like to de-emphasize the bevel so I think lava on all of it. I'm not sure how many piece body is standard but a one piece body is $100 extra. For the grain of swamp ash I could see doing it but probably not for alder. That lava really seems to catch the light and should work well with black hardware and an ebony board. I get the idea about flipping the pickup 180 to go from 60's to 70's position. It's nice to have the option.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:53 pm

The normal body is no more than 2 piece. Sometimes you luck out and you get 1 on the headless models because the bodies are smaller, but if you dont upgrade, expect one seam running from the center of the neck pocket, down to the bottom strap button.

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Postby 5StringPocket » Wed May 15, 2019 7:36 pm

If they bookmatch the pieces well then a two-piece seam is hardly noticed. Actually don't think I've ever had a one piece body before. Random question - what is the center to center spacing between the two pickups?

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby forbiddenengravings » Thu May 16, 2019 8:48 pm

Howler wrote:
HarlowTheFish wrote:From what Toptube said, it looks like they just weren't tooled up to make a pickup long enough to slant while still spanning all 6 strings. The one in the pictures was probably made before the longer slanted pickups were finished.


Toptube said longer radiused pickups so maybe not for HB4/5/6 Alnico Bridge Humbuckers.

Also checked the gallery and they also did that on VM59K's:
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Hopefully they will soon offer multiscale options for Osiris and VADER basses!


Haha, scrolling through Google and saw my bass! Never realized they actually took a pic of it.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby brento73 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:23 am

I'm eyeing a ZBM6, although I agree with others that, all things being equal, I'd prefer an Osiris to a Zeus. My only concern, other than needing to save some serious money, is that I use D'Addario Chromes on both my guitar and my bass, and they don't make a 6-string set. I'd have to get creative....

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby SilkyHotLicks » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:10 am

brento73 wrote:I'm eyeing a ZBM6, although I agree with others that, all things being equal, I'd prefer an Osiris to a Zeus. My only concern, other than needing to save some serious money, is that I use D'Addario Chromes on both my guitar and my bass, and they don't make a 6-string set. I'd have to get creative....

Have you tried the Kiesel flatwounds for bass? I've used them on my V69K and my VB6. I think that they sound and feel great and the price is good. The Kiesel flatwounds are the only strings that I use on my V69K.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby brento73 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:32 am

A friend had them on his Zeus, I think, or maybe his Vader, I can't remember. They felt good, but didn't seem as 'punchy' as the D'Addario's on my Yamaha, although that could certainly be other factors, since it's a very different bass. They don't have any string options in the builder for the multi-scale basses, but with the ZBM's only being 35" on the long side, I don't think it would be an issue.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby cheframennoodle » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:13 am

Is it possible to use clip-on headstock tuners with these basses? Clipped on perpendicular to the end of the neck. Maybe it's time to go tuner shopping.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby Toptube » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:50 pm

I don't think so. There's no space at the end of the neck. And the neck itself is probably too tick for most clip-ons like a Shark tuner.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby spudmunkey » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:47 pm

I've seen people say they had some luck... but I dint koa with which models. I *want* to say I say someone with a poly tune, but not 100% sure I'm remembering correctly.

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby spudmunkey » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:49 pm

Just found this exchange on Facebook:
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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby cheframennoodle » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:05 pm

cool good to know. thanks!

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Re: New! Zeus MULTISCALE Headless Bolt-Neck Bass

Postby HarlowTheFish » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:19 pm

The NS Micro Headstock tuner sorta works with the Hipshot guitar headpiece, so it might work with the bass one as well. It's kinda spotty though and you definitely don't want to leave it up there while playing 'cause it gets in the way a lot.


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