Xcellerator model on it's way out

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Greg Emm » Mon May 14, 2018 6:35 am

gumbynotpokey wrote:.5 inch closer than the classic P made by Fen#*r?


To my knowledge, yes. However, I do not have a P at hand to verify my recollection that the split between the coils on a Fender P SCP is 11 inches from the 12th fret.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby TTW » Sat May 26, 2018 1:39 am

Still there.... :D

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sat May 26, 2018 5:51 am

TTW wrote:Still there.... :D


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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Greg Emm » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:15 pm

Well, the day has come. The Xccelerator is not longer listed on the bass guitars landing page on the Kiesel site. We knew the day was was coming, but I didn't read or hear anything about a specific termination date. Did Jeff announce one on a video stream or anything?

The Xccelerator is a great bass and moved Kiesel forward in a couple positive ways: providing a platform for the SCP in a non-P style bass as well as serving as the first Kiesel model to feature carbon fiber reinforcement rods in the neck as a standard feature.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:16 am

Greg Emm wrote:Well, the day has come. The Xccelerator is not longer listed on the bass guitars landing page on the Kiesel site. We knew the day was was coming, but I didn't read or hear anything about a specific termination date. Did Jeff announce one on a video stream or anything?

The Xccelerator is a great bass and moved Kiesel forward in a couple positive ways: providing a platform for the SCP in a non-P style bass as well as serving as the first Kiesel model to feature carbon fiber reinforcement rods in the neck as a standard feature.


....by providing the beloved split on a bass that doesn't require a (dreaded) pickguard.....
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby TTW » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:21 pm

I'm so glad, I ordered one. The Xccelerator is such a great bass. It's hard for me to see all those headless basses staying and to let this great design go. Sorry, Jeff, in my opinion the design of those basses is not that cool and aggressive as the Xccerlerator. The good thing is, that the Xcellerator is a very robust bass. So, it will stay with me a long time.

I can't understand, that people prefer an LB to an X44/54/64... but tastes differ.

The Aries may be an alternative, but it has a bolt on neck and surely does not sound that gentle. :)

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:44 pm

TTW wrote:I can't understand, that people prefer an LB to an X44/54/64... but tastes differ.


Yep. Tastes differ.
*Carved edges, points, etc etc. Not for everyone.
*Rounded sides, traditional headstock shape, etc etc. Not for everyone.

If a model sells enough, they retain it. If a model does not sell enough, they eliminate it. Simple.

The LB used to be their flagship bass, like the DC400 was their flagship guitar. Times change. Funny to see a newer model get axed. Why? "Legacy buyers" now have sympathy from dgent players. LOL!

LB? For me, yes please.

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As you can see, they do draw a bit of interest. :)
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby TTW » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:22 pm

Those carved edges are nice. That's absolutely right. Happy to see, that Kiesel basses do draw a bit of interest. :D

Mine did that, too. It has an deep aquaburst quilt top. I played the X54 in a brass band. Someone said: "In the very bright spot light, it looked like a blue waterfall." :D Alright. :) That was an important proof: A Metal-Axe works in a big band :D

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:47 pm

TTW wrote:Those carved edges are nice. That's absolutely right. Happy to see, that Kiesel basses do draw a bit of interest. :D

A Metal-Axe works in a big band :D


I'll keep at this all day if I let myself. :) Please forgive me.

1. Well, both of these beauties are BEFORE they re-branded (2004 jet black LB70P; 2012 claro/HAN fretless LB70). That is to say, "Carvin" was the company back then.

2. IME/IMO no such thing as a "metal axe" etc. That is to say, the tone is in the hands. For example, P bass played by Steve Harris vs Carol Kaye; Ric played by Lemmy vs Maurice Gibb (Bee Gee's). We could build similar lists for other basses.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:27 pm

The Fe*der Jazz Bass has been around a while too. Right hand matters. :)

Headphones please. And I made them all the same guy, so the right hand technique would make my point for me.

Example 1: chill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-J_s6S7TsU

Example 2: in your face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ilVMa2D-OA

Example 3: woah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1ALi00RRP4

This other guy might help too. Still a J.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJoTxywiRG0
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby SEANZILLA » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:48 am

Greg Emm wrote:Well, the day has come. The Xccelerator is not longer listed on the bass guitars landing page on the Kiesel site. We knew the day was was coming, but I didn't read or hear anything about a specific termination date. Did Jeff announce one on a video stream or anything?

The Xccelerator is a great bass and moved Kiesel forward in a couple positive ways: providing a platform for the SCP in a non-P style bass as well as serving as the first Kiesel model to feature carbon fiber reinforcement rods in the neck as a standard feature.


No, the Bromberg line had carbpon fiber rods first. Before the Xcellerator even existed. It wasn't selling, regardless of how nice it may have been.
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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby Greg Emm » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:47 am

"No, the Bromberg line had carbpon fiber rods first. Before the Xcellerator even existed."

Clarification appreciated. And yes, Jeff has made it clear that models that do not sell will be deleted from the catalog.

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Re: Xcellerator model on it's way out

Postby gumbynotpokey » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:57 pm

Greg Emm wrote:"No, the Bromberg line had carbpon fiber rods first. Before the Xcellerator even existed."

Clarification appreciated. And yes, Jeff has made it clear that models that do not sell will be deleted from the catalog.


Like the catalog itself!

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