1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

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1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Koaboy » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:37 pm

Recently purchased this from Ebay, was up for a couple of weeks so some of you may have seen the poor pictures, here are better pictures... The EMG in it is active and sounds good if you are 18 year old headbanger, it does cut through, anyone have a vintage 4 screw Carvin pup to sell me? : )
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Doctor Doug » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:00 pm

Cool! Neat find!
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Koaboy » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:02 pm

^ Thanks, pics don't do justice ...

Does anyone know if this was a custom option for it's time or a special build? It would be interesting to get some history on the rare combos that came out of the Carvin plant and what sort of upcharge pricing was involved of course for the early 90's to mid 90's timeframe....
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Doctor Turn » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:56 pm

Someone probably just called up the shop and asked if they could do one up with solid flamed maple body like they did with the old DC160 Standards.

One is from the set neck era that they originated... One slightly later either late eighties early nineties when they went neck through:

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The idea originally was to create a complete stunner of a guitar with all highly figured wood (they did the same with highly figured koa on these 150's and 160's).

By the time they went neck through and the effect was interrupted by the visibility of the neck interrupting the high figure, they started using tops. But I'm sure you could still have one built by request if you had the drachma.

That's a beauty. Why not slap an m22SD on there?

PS.. judging by the body shape, I'm guessing that Tom bridge was after marketed on.
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby dbone » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:35 am

Nice score!
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Koaboy » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:13 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:Someone probably just called up the shop and asked if they could do one up with solid flamed maple body like they did with the old DC160 Standards.

One is from the set neck era that they originated... One slightly later either late eighties early nineties when they went neck through:

Image

The idea originally was to create a complete stunner of a guitar with all highly figured wood (they did the same with highly figured koa on these 150's and 160's).

By the time they went neck through and the effect was interrupted by the visibility of the neck interrupting the high figure, they started using tops. But I'm sure you could still have one built by request if you had the drachma.

That's a beauty. Why not slap an m22SD on there?

PS.. judging by the body shape, I'm guessing that Tom bridge was after marketed on.




Awesome 160's MAN !!!! Love :applause:

I just picked up a 4 screw vintage M22v (neck pos i think) on reverb it has the bezel also for real cheap, I wanted a more mellow pup so I think it will be want I want sound wise?? I will check into the bridge, thanks for your knowledge and I will also need to replace the tuners back to original has locking one on now...
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Doctor Turn » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:07 am

If you check out this page
http://www.carvinmuseum.com/decade/imag ... tions.html

From the Carvin museum covering the additions to the line in 1992 (which is also the year that the M22V was introduced, to offer a sweeter and less"big" sounding neck pickup vs the vintage M22N), you can see one of the example guitars from the catalog (lower right corner)

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There's a dc127 (with a "DC150 option" to give it the stubby horns of the essentially discontinued old 150), and you can see a build very similar to yours... Neck through with highly figured wings, contrasting with a neck through from a different piece of lumber.
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Koaboy » Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:41 pm

^^ Thanks Dr Turn !!

hard to believe the 150 option was only $40, wonder how many of those are around?, I know there is one on fleebay now but not sure of the vintage, my S/n is 29311 may be a 1992 but the seller did claim the previous owner said he bought it in 1991.. ?? Love the old catalogs, I picked up a few used ones from 80's, once in a while someone sells a stack of them for cheap, great for coffee table!! 8)
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:59 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:Someone probably just called up the shop and asked if they could do one up with solid flamed maple body like they did with the old DC160 Standards.

One is from the set neck era that they originated... One slightly later either late eighties early nineties when they went neck through:

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I need to revise my description of the 3 pc body. I thought it was some kind of neck through with a neck plank that widened up after the cutaway join to increase sustain or something.

I recently read woodensoul's post on this guitar, and it's just a 3 piece body on a set neck. Which I never saw before this, either on a 100, 150, 160 or 200 running up to 87 to the end of the set neck era on these "classic era" models.

Still a gorgeous guitar but a bit of an oddball. So for the true equivalency for the 125 thru neck in this thread, that would be the 127 w the "DC" (150) option in that ad with the figured wings and plain neck plank.
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Doctor Turn » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:24 am

I also love how koa was getting a little "expensive" by 1992 (I'm being sarcastic)... a la that 92 catalog page-- an extra 100 bucks for koa neck and body wings on their guitars. A whopping price increase versus the 30-40 bucks extra they charged for an upgrade to all koa from all maple back in the mid 80's (which I paid to switch from clear maple/CM to koa/"K").

Although to be honest, I have no doubt that people back then probably thought it was a heavy price jump. Tonewood wasn't looked at with the mental cravings a la nowadays. Koa was thought of as a pretty wood, and one that sounded really nice. Same thing with bursts, PAF's ,etc. The prices hadn't gone completely berserk a la nowadays. Played a couple of bursts back in the day on 48th street. Early 80's ish, probably ran somewhere around 7-10 grand.
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby Koaboy » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:13 pm

Doctor Turn wrote:I also love how koa was getting a little "expensive" by 1992 (I'm being sarcastic)... a la that 92 catalog page-- an extra 100 bucks for koa neck and body wings on their guitars. A whopping price increase versus the 30-40 bucks extra they charged for an upgrade to all koa from all maple back in the mid 80's (which I paid to switch from clear maple/CM to koa/"K").

Although to be honest, I have no doubt that people back then probably thought it was a heavy price jump. Tonewood wasn't looked at with the mental cravings a la nowadays. Koa was thought of as a pretty wood, and one that sounded really nice. Same thing with bursts, PAF's ,etc. The prices hadn't gone completely berserk a la nowadays. Played a couple of bursts back in the day on 48th street. Early 80's ish, probably ran somewhere around 7-10 grand.



Yeah I hear you, that is why I just bought a Koa bass LB40 (don't play bass much so good enough for me and like the dc125, less parts shows more wood...) and a few all maple Carvin's recently as I really do think they are a great investment and still relatively cheap too... I want a birdseye 160 but would settle for flamed, not much for curly but the solid ones are unreal... my next new build (as far as right now in my head) would be a DC maple neck thru, maple body, walnut top and ebony fretbd "Groovy" !! And I was actually thinking that flamed 160 was a set neck because of how wide the middle piece is, yep that's a rarity big time ... ! A 160 solid flame set neck sold on ebay not long ago but it was not an easy search, was in germany, and a birdseye one sold earlier this year but had a tremmy that replaced the orig bridge or I would probably own that one lol, was really nice... ok enough dreaming :shock:
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Re: 1991 DC125 Solid Flame body sides, score!

Postby toejam » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:09 am

Man, solid flamed maple is so awesome! Congrats. :)


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