Vader guitar... pros and cons.

[Nombrecomun]

It's hard for me to think of any cons. A clip-on tuner works just fine.

Hey! Curious as to what clip on tuner are you using. I have a small D'Addario Planet Waves NS Micro Headstock Tuner but that won't stay in place.

Thanks!

[ioneater]

It's hard for me to think of any cons. A clip-on tuner works just fine.

Hey! Curious as to what clip on tuner are you using. I have a small D'Addario Planet Waves NS Micro Headstock Tuner but that won't stay in place.

Thanks!

Intellitouch.

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[Doctor Turn]

Ioneater! Happy New year to you! Haven't seen you around lately. Hope all is well. I know you were dealing with an injury to your shoulder there for a bit (I think it was your shoulder, anyway). I hope you're cranking on all of those V's and that nice Nineties koa neck thru.

[Koshchei]

Polytune2.

[quattro]

Only one con......

No hardshell case.

Other than that.... perfect.

[gibvel]

Only one con......

No hardshell case.

Other than that.... perfect.

Honestly, I like the soft case better!! And I used to be a hard line hard case guy!

[ioneater]

Ioneater! Happy New year to you! Haven't seen you around lately. Hope all is well. I know you were dealing with an injury to your shoulder there for a bit (I think it was your shoulder, anyway). I hope you're cranking on all of those V's and that nice Nineties koa neck thru.

Oops, missed your post until tonight, Doc. And....happy new year to you as well . Sold the Koa 127, the low frets were driving me nuts. Too much finger board dragging for me. The shoulder is about 80% back to normal! Haven't been playing as much lately, added another expensive hobby to feed during the weeks off. Building a flying contraption.

[TL60 Dude]

Pro: Sounds Great!

Con: Ugliest guitar on Earth

(I never claimed to have good taste!)

[Rocky]

Actually, I think the Vader is a great looking guitar. Everyone I have shown mine to has been very impressed. My VM8 is the most light and compact and comfortable 8 string I have every played. I think access to the headless tuners is the best of all the Kiesel designs.

My only issue has been transitioning to an 8 string. While it brings new possibilities, it also brings more complexity. I go back and forth. When I get overwhelmed by the 8, I go back to a 6. Then the 6 feels like a tooth pick and I fall into my usual playing ruts. Then I pull out the 8 and rediscover how great it is.

Currently, I am back playing the 8 and experimenting with different tuning's. It has really expanded my fretboard knowledge and inspired me to create new musical ideas I never would have thought to do on a 6. Exciting stuff. I am having a great time.

[dvkerner]

Can you put heavy gauge strings on a headless guitar? I've heard that you aren't supposed to, but I don't really know. I'm thinking of buying a Holdsworth headless, but it'd be a deal breaker if I can't put 12s on it. What do you guys think?

[/Y\]

I have 11s on mine, with no issues. Truss rod is not even that tight. I did send the strings in so it could be set up with them from the start.

[dvkerner]

I have 11s on mine, with no issues. Truss rod is not even that tight. I did send the strings in so it could be set up with them from the start.

Thank you for your reply! Do the strings fit easily into the holes at the bridge and at the nut? One concern I have is that the 12s would be physically too thick to fit through those holes.

[/Y\]

No problems stringing up with 11-49, so I think you'd be fine with 12s. Again, best to call in when you order to indicate you want the guitar set up with that particular set of strings.

[dvkerner]

No problems stringing up with 11-49, so I think you'd be fine with 12s. Again, best to call in when you order to indicate you want the guitar set up with that particular set of strings.

Okay! I definitely will call in about that. Thank you!

[dvkerner]

Also, do you think a 56 would fit on the low end? How tight is it on the 49? I use 12-56

[arahobob]

Also, do you think a 56 would fit on the low end? How tight is it on the 49? I use 12-56

My v7 uses a 60 or 62. You'll be fine.

[dvkerner]

Also, do you think a 56 would fit on the low end? How tight is it on the 49? I use 12-56

My v7 uses a 60 or 62. You'll be fine.

Thank you, I appreciate that! The slot for that one isn't bigger because it's a 7 string?

[arahobob]

Also, do you think a 56 would fit on the low end? How tight is it on the 49? I use 12-56

My v7 uses a 60 or 62. You'll be fine.

Thank you, I appreciate that! The slot for that one isn't bigger because it's a 7 string?

On the nut, I'd assume so.
I was just referring to the hardware - i'll give it a look over when I change strings to investigate.

[arahobob]

Recent Vader CON:

After playing the V7 with my electric gig for the last month or so, ALL of my regular guitars feel HEAVY!!!!!!

[Nombrecomun]

Recent Vader CON:

After playing the V7 with my electric gig for the last month or so, ALL of my regular guitars feel HEAVY!!!!!!

Yep