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Fretless Guitar Club

Postby gpbarnett » Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:09 am

If you have a fretless guitar (not a bass) from Carvin/Kiesel, please post a picture. More people should be aware that Carvin/Kiesel offers fretless on guitars as an Option 50. Anyone considering a fretless guitar should have Carvin/Kiesel as one of their top choices, especially since the Hard as Nails fretboard finish works much better than an unfinished fingerboard.

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re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:15 am

If this thread takes off, I may wind up having my plans for my next axe (non reverse Firebird III Studio w the three P90's and phase and tap switching) upended. I gave away a custom made fretless guitar years ago, in 1985, because I had just rec'd my Carvin 150 and couldn't put it down.

I needed fretless when I heard Zappa's Down In De Dew, years ago when I was in high school....
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re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby Johnland82 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:17 am

Holy crap! I had no idea that they offered fretless guitars! Could you possibly record a demo of it? I'd love to hear how it sounds.

I just bought and old(ish) Carvin fretless bass, and I've been considering a guitar for years, but all of the seemingly good ones are insanely expensive.

I wonder if they do fretless without the fret lines.

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Re: re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby gpbarnett » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:41 am

Johnland82 wrote:Holy crap! I had no idea that they offered fretless guitars! Could you possibly record a demo of it? I'd love to hear how it sounds.

I just bought and old(ish) Carvin fretless bass, and I've been considering a guitar for years, but all of the seemingly good ones are insanely expensive.

I wonder if they do fretless without the fret lines.


Demo (intonation isn't great, the rhythm part turned out a bit better than the lead): https://soundcloud.com/gbarnett/vader-bluesish-demo

Yes, you can get fretless without the lines.

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re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby Koshchei » Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:01 am

Have you had a chance to try flats on it? How's the intonation coming? Any issues with wear?

I'm still super excited by this guitar -- kudos to you for taking such a bold plunge!

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Postby gpbarnett » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:32 am

Koshchei wrote:Have you had a chance to try flats on it? How's the intonation coming? Any issues with wear?

I'm still super excited by this guitar -- kudos to you for taking such a bold plunge!


Haven't tried flats on it (and don't intend to). I use semi-flats (D'Addario EHR360) on my Warmoth fretless (Pau Ferro board), and plan to continue to use regular wound strings on Mystique.

My intonation is improving, but still has a long way to go, especially when improvising (which is mostly what I do).

There are a few light scratches in the Hard as Nails finish, but nothing that impacts playability.

I'm loving that Mystique is featured as the header image on Kiesel Guitar's Twitter page and the Kiesel Edition page.

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Re: re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:19 am

Johnland82 wrote:I wonder if they do fretless without the fret lines.


That, sir, is a "yes".
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re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:20 am

Jeff posted this one recently.

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re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:24 am

And just to be thorough, in case newer members never saw the glass fingerboard.. Remember that one?

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re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby jb63 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:49 pm

Wow.
Well that is truly awesome. This is my first post here and you guys finally made a topic I couldn't shut up about. That is one obscure thing for option 50.

Is there a list of all the option 50s? I know there was once a thread, but this seems like you could just make up anything for an opt 50.

Anyway, I have finally gotten the 'hang' of fretless playing and now I can't believe Carvin would make them. They hate my pocketbook.

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Postby voodoo_Jef » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:20 pm

jb63 wrote:Wow.


Is there a list of all the option 50s? I know there was once a thread, but this seems like you could just make up anything for an opt 50.


That`s pretty much what an Opt50 is. Its ANYTHING you want done that they don`t have a pre-existing code for. It could be something simple like a color combination they don`t do standard, or something very complicated like a fretless multiscale with luminlay fret lines. The Opt50 is for basically anything they agree to do that isn`t a standard option. Not ALL opt 50 choices are non-returnable as well (although by their very nature it`s likely to be the case most often).
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Re: re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby arahobob » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:28 pm

voodoo_Jef wrote:
jb63 wrote:Wow.


Is there a list of all the option 50s? I know there was once a thread, but this seems like you could just make up anything for an opt 50.


That`s pretty much what an Opt50 is. Its ANYTHING you want done that they don`t have a pre-existing code for. It could be something simple like a color combination they don`t do standard, or something very complicated like a fretless multiscale with luminlay fret lines. The Opt50 is for basically anything they agree to do that isn`t a standard option. Not ALL opt 50 choices are non-returnable as well (although by their very nature it`s likely to be the case most often).


This is spot on.

I have a two part opt50 (trans black back and sides / trans black burst) and a opt51 (reversed silver drop shadow logo) on my current build.

Returnable options without codes.
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Re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby Sailor Mike » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:14 pm

It is with a great sadness that I announce the death of my brother Greg Barnett, serious Kiesel enthusiast, collector, and excellent musician. Greg, who commissioned, among many other Kiesels, the 7 string fretless Vader "Mystique", died of complications from cancer on August 12th. If you are so inclined, feel free to play something seriously hard in his memory.

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Re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby arahobob » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:48 pm

Sailor Mike wrote:It is with a great sadness that I announce the death of my brother Greg Barnett, serious Kiesel enthusiast, collector, and excellent musician. Greg, who commissioned, among many other Kiesels, the 7 string fretless Vader "Mystique", died of complications from cancer on August 12th. If you are so inclined, feel free to play something seriously hard in his memory.


That's terrible news. So sorry for your loss.
I imagine mystique will live on for a long time in the Kiesel photo galleries.
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Re: Fretless Guitar Club

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:11 am

Ah, this is the thread I was talking about regarding fretless guitars and Greg.

RIP. :(
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1985 DC150K (koa) Stereo, M22N/M22SD w/black hardware.
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