NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:54 pm

Yeah the headstock is definitely a Gibson Les Paul Custom (in the video), it has the binding on the headstock and the diamond inlay unique to the Custom.. also the binding on the back of the body as well as the top.

But I can see why it reminds you of the vintage Swedes and Supers because the cutaway is a little more rounded... A little more in the Blues Bird direction.

It's definitely a unique Les Paul, for that period anyway.
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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:54 pm

Accidental double post.
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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby ElfDude » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:59 am

Fascinating!

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Doctor Turn » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:51 am

Since we're on the subject of Hag Swedes and uniquely modified guitars, here's Daryl Stuermer playing a 70's Swede, and for one reason or another had unbolted the neck and put a new neck in. Great perf w Jean Luc Ponty, Alan Zavod, Steve Smith, and Zappa's bass player Tom Fowler on an Alembic. Stuermer also from time to time played Swedes with Genesis.

Cool short, tight, fusiony piece called Tarantula.

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby canon_mutant » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:12 pm

With all apologies to Jan, his last name Akkerman, and I'm pretty sure he was playing a Framus.

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Doctor Turn » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:11 am

Not in that television gig, that elf shared. That is not that guitar, it's this one which has a Gibson headstock with the diamond inlay. Nowhere near that sharp of a cutaway.

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:40 am

For me, the big giveaway is the angled end of the fretboard. I don't know how they various versions were named, but I've always seen that on "Les Paul Personal" model guitars. In the article I linked, they mentioned they it was re-topped and given the new electronics, so that would be why the pickups don't match...but most of those "Personal" models have the iconic headstock inlay.

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Naked Ape » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:26 am

spudmunkey wrote:For me, the big giveaway is the angled end of the fretboard. I don't know how they various versions were named, but I've always seen that on "Les Paul Personal" model guitars. In the article I linked, they mentioned they it was re-topped and given the new electronics, so that would be why the pickups don't match...but most of those "Personal" models have the iconic headstock inlay.


It began life as one of these.
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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby ElfDude » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:42 am

And before this thread I'd never heard of the Gibson Personal.
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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Doctor Turn » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:58 am

ElfDude wrote:And before this thread I'd never heard of the Gibson Personal.
Thanks for the education, guys!


Neither have I. The Naked Ape axe is either a Recording or a Professional.

note: Well you learn something new everyday. The Personal was an upgraded version of the Recording, which I believe was really called the Professional. But I think they also called it the Personal for a stretch?

Would be bizarre on that guitar since it's routed for buckers, not the Recording/Prof singles, and it has a maple top, which the Recording/Prof didn't have, at least not as far as I've seen. In any case, it's a wild geet! (But it's deffo not a Framus, that's a Gibby)
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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Naked Ape » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:23 pm

Here is a page from a book I have. (remember books?) :think: Lol.
You can see the Original 'Recording' with 335 type Block Inlays.
The 'Profesional' which has the LP Standard style inlays.
The 'Personel', which has the LP Custom style Inlays and Headstock.
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Maybe they should make some Jan Akkerman style Re-Issues. I like it!
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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby canon_mutant » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:34 pm

Yeah, and I posted the wrong Framus. There is one that looks like this.

I agree though it is a Gibby but a slightly basterdized one. What threw me was the angled neck at the neck pup with a wrap around bridge, slightly thicker body, and the overly rounded heel cut. I believe Jan got him a Custom Custom.

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby spudmunkey » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:23 am

From the article I linked to on the previous page:

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby canon_mutant » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:56 pm

Sorry, Spud, I missed it. Explains a lot.

His seek for a more treble-ly sound might be why I could always get so close to that song's tone by using both pups out of phase on my ole 200T back in the day. I still have the ole girl but it badly needs some TLC and I already have 3 guitars scattered at the moment. Should get my Epi LP back together tonight though. Dying to get my TL60 back together with the new Pearly Gates Jazz II addition. I finally lost a S22 so thought I would try something different. On that nearly 14 lb hunka hunka burnin walnut, I suspect this combo is going to work REALLY well.

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Re: NGD Hagstrom Northen Series Super Swede.. SCORE!!

Postby Doctor Turn » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:52 pm

spudmunkey wrote:From the article I linked to on the previous page:

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Great FIND, dude! You must have dug for that one.

Wild to go putting a maple top with all those adjustments, but hey, he obviously dug the end result. That's about the most customized Lester I've seen, and makes Marley's famous LP Special look bone stock. I thought T Rex's Standard with the steamed-in Custom neck was customized.

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