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Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:05 am

I am considering my next “woody” likely a Claro walnut topped SH550, looking for opinions on the body wood for a SH550.
Walnut neck and body might look great but I am concerned about the weight.
Walnut is very espresso bean looking to me and many of the body woods seem a little too red to go with it. I guess I am leaning towards Black limba and possibly tung oil the whole thing. Maybe royal ebony board and overlay. Any thoughts...
Mahogany
Koa
Black Limba
White Limba
Walnut
Swamp ash is not listed but might look good in summer ash

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby spudmunkey » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:51 am

I'm kind of with you on the mismatch of coloration between walnut and most other Woods. However, I think this can be mostly mitigated with a light-colored middle layer with the 3PB option. Especially if it's something as light as Maple or Ash.

Without that, I feel like my favorite Walnut top guitars have Ash bodies. Next would probably be Alder. Mahogany and koa seem too orange when compared to the sometimes slightly purpley Walnut... And black and white limba, to me, have just a slight bit too much green.
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:53 am

see examples:

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hog body

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walnut body
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:09 am

In some ways white limba or a summer Ash seem a like a good match with walnut, kinda of like a just poured guinness look. But is it too much contrast hmm.
Gumby I would like to see some side and back shots on those they are both lovely.
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby JCG » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:17 am

Summer Ash or Mahogany should work well with the walnut top.

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby Doctor Doug » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:19 pm

Black limba will be heavy if you're worried about weight.
My black limba CS6 is heavier than my mahogany one.

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:52 pm

Doctor Doug wrote:Black limba will be heavy if you're worried about weight.
My black limba CS6 is heavier than my mahogany one.


I am of the understanding that Walnut is pretty heavy so yes it’s definetly a concern.
The SH550 is a semi hollow but I would like to avoid selecting all heavy woods.
I have read somewhere that black limba is heavier than white limba not sure how much.
i’m sure they all vary a bit.
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby spudmunkey » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:16 pm

In brief comments in Q&A, Jeff's said that black limba is more like walnut in weight and tone, while white limba is more like mahogany in weight and tone.

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby HarlowTheFish » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:39 pm

Also keep in mind I think they're doing a chrome logo standard on the thing oil builds so they don't have to clear coat over it, so call in and ask.

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby SilkyHotLicks » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:17 pm

I feel that I may have a little bit to add to this conversation as I have these, a SH675, a C66 and a V69K all of which have a Claro Walnut top on a Walnut body.
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In addition I have a C7X with a Burled Maple top and Walnut body, a SH7X with a Quilted Maple top on a Mahogany body and a ZA7 on the way with Claro Walnut top on a Walnut body.

So in my opinion a walnut body is the perfect mate to a walnut top, if you don't mind the ~2 lbs difference over ash. My SH7X is the heaviest Kiesel that I own next to my V69K. My lightest guitar is a 6.5 lbs Godin Passion Custom with a Red Cedar body and a Swamp Ash top.

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:44 pm

SilkyHotLicks wrote:I feel that I may have a little bit to add to this conversation as I have these, a SH675, a C66 and a V69K all of which have a Claro Walnut top on a Walnut body.
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In addition I have a C7X with a Burled Maple top and Walnut body, a SH7X with a Quilted Maple top on a Mahogany body and a ZA7 on the way with Claro Walnut top on a Walnut body.

So in my opinion a walnut body is the perfect mate to a walnut top, if you don't mind the ~2 lbs difference over ash. My SH7X is the heaviest Kiesel that I own next to my V69K. My lightest guitar is a 6.5 lbs Godin Passion Custom with a Red Cedar body and a Swamp Ash top.


Do you recall the weight on the SH675?
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby SilkyHotLicks » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:00 pm

dbone wrote:Do you recall the weight on the SH675?

It's 7.8 lbs.

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:04 pm

SilkyHotLicks wrote:
dbone wrote:Do you recall the weight on the SH675?

It's 7.8 lbs.


7.8 is about the same as my DC600
How do you like the tone on the SH675?
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby gumbynotpokey » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:10 pm

dbone wrote:In some ways white limba or a summer Ash seem a like a good match with walnut, kinda of like a just poured guinness look. But is it too much contrast hmm.
Gumby I would like to see some side and back shots on those they are both lovely.


claro fretless backside.jpg

there's the backside of the fretless

for the SH, scroll through this thread.... :) first post will have it!
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby Naked Ape » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:40 pm

Here are a few pics of Claro Walnut on Mahogany.
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This is Claro Walnut on top of Alder, with a middle layer of 'I believe' Mahogany.
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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:02 pm

Ahh thanks for those, I found a swamp ash / claro for comparison

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby dbone » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:50 am

here’s a couple white limba body pics

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Re: Body wood? for Walnut topped SH550

Postby SilkyHotLicks » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:43 am

dbone wrote:
SilkyHotLicks wrote:
dbone wrote:Do you recall the weight on the SH675?

It's 7.8 lbs.


7.8 is about the same as my DC600
How do you like the tone on the SH675?

I really like it. It has S22 pickups and I use flatwound strings on it.


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