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Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby ElfDude » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:26 am

I posted elsewhere a while ago that Brian Setzer had given me GAS for a Gretsch hollowbody, but when I tried it I was immediately disappointed in the anemic sound it put out.

The other day I seemed to remember that Epiphone once offered something similar. Searched around and I was right. Has anyone here ever tried one of these?

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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby Koshchei » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:02 pm

A Gretsch that isn't a Gretsch!

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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:04 pm

I've not tried one, but that is clearly a copy of a 5120 to me, with the exception of th "Chet" bar.

Those pickups look extremely similar to the Gretschbuckers, and I'd expect them to be a standard humbucker sized copy, or thereabouts. If you can find one, give it a whirl. A hollowbody with milder pickups should definitely be in the arsenal. I still think a 5420 may be more of your thing. The blacktops have plenty of output.
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby ElfDude » Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:32 pm

UnexplodedCow wrote: I still think a 5420 may be more of your thing. The blacktops have plenty of output.


Like this?

https://reverb.com/item/17729022-gretsch-g5420t-electromatic-hollow-body-2012-natural-orange
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby HarlowTheFish » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:29 pm

ElfDude wrote:
UnexplodedCow wrote: I still think a 5420 may be more of your thing. The blacktops have plenty of output.


Like this?

https://reverb.com/item/17729022-gretsch-g5420t-electromatic-hollow-body-2012-natural-orange

Okay I want a CL6 in that finish. It's so obnoxiously colorful, I love it!

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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby ElfDude » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:44 am

HarlowTheFish wrote:
ElfDude wrote:
UnexplodedCow wrote: I still think a 5420 may be more of your thing. The blacktops have plenty of output.


Like this?

https://reverb.com/item/17729022-gretsch-g5420t-electromatic-hollow-body-2012-natural-orange

Okay I want a CL6 in that finish. It's so obnoxiously colorful, I love it!


I keep thinking I want an SH550B in that finish. :mrgreen:
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:43 am

Yup! That's the color, and it's kind of a Gretsch thing. I prefer the clear pickguards, but those came on the 5120, though it's easier to swap a pickguard than pickups in those things. Hollowbodies are a special kind of nightmare for me to wire up. Big hands don't fit small spaces very well, so it's all tweezers and forceps.
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby HarlowTheFish » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:34 am

UnexplodedCow wrote:Yup! That's the color, and it's kind of a Gretsch thing. I prefer the clear pickguards, but those came on the 5120, though it's easier to swap a pickguard than pickups in those things. Hollowbodies are a special kind of nightmare for me to wire up. Big hands don't fit small spaces very well, so it's all tweezers and forceps.

I wanted one of the PRS 594HBs until I realized I'd have to wire it through the F-holes. No thanks, I do a lousy enough job wiring a pickguard. I still want one but my plan to put some BKP Warpigs in it may have to wait.

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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby ElfDude » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:21 am

It's interesting to hear you say that those pickups have plenty of output. The one I tried in the music store was pretty weak. Perhaps one simply has to raise the pickups up close to the strings?
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:09 am

HarlowTheFish wrote:
UnexplodedCow wrote:Yup! That's the color, and it's kind of a Gretsch thing. I prefer the clear pickguards, but those came on the 5120, though it's easier to swap a pickguard than pickups in those things. Hollowbodies are a special kind of nightmare for me to wire up. Big hands don't fit small spaces very well, so it's all tweezers and forceps.

I wanted one of the PRS 594HBs until I realized I'd have to wire it through the F-holes. No thanks, I do a lousy enough job wiring a pickguard. I still want one but my plan to put some BKP Warpigs in it may have to wait.


Pay some poor sucker to do it. That's how I make side money....I'm the poor sucker. :mrgreen:
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:11 am

ElfDude wrote:It's interesting to hear you say that those pickups have plenty of output. The one I tried in the music store was pretty weak. Perhaps one simply has to raise the pickups up close to the strings?


From the factory, the pickups are way too far from the strings. Some companies make shims to go beyond what the screws can do, and is what I did to mine. At stock level, yeah, they're pretty weak. I've no idea why Gretsch built them that way.
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby ElfDude » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:25 am

UnexplodedCow wrote:
ElfDude wrote:It's interesting to hear you say that those pickups have plenty of output. The one I tried in the music store was pretty weak. Perhaps one simply has to raise the pickups up close to the strings?


From the factory, the pickups are way too far from the strings. Some companies make shims to go beyond what the screws can do, and is what I did to mine. At stock level, yeah, they're pretty weak. I've no idea why Gretsch built them that way.


Interesting. Thanks, mate!
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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby dbone » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:56 am

You could have Kiesel do a Color match and get that color. I had a bass made in Creamsicle orange that came out quite nice.

A SH550 like the one below might look cool like that, maybe ask for cream binding instead of white and have them match the color you like.

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Re: Epiphone Swingster, Anyone tried one?

Postby ElfDude » Mon May 13, 2019 3:39 pm

No new guitars purchased as of yet.
But this may end up satisfying my craving for now.
We shall see.
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