New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby spudmunkey » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:38 pm

True, satin does indeed get a semi-gloss over time just from friction.

Tung oil, too, if you're feeling too much of the wood grain, and Limba is pretty open compared to maple, but you can always keep adding coats to get to the smoothness level you want...but then you feel more of the finish than the wood in the first place.

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby HarlowTheFish » Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:22 pm

spudmunkey wrote:True, satin does indeed get a semi-gloss over time just from friction.

Tung oil, too, if you're feeling too much of the wood grain, and Limba is pretty open compared to maple, but you can always keep adding coats to get to the smoothness level you want...but then you feel more of the finish than the wood in the first place.

If you use a more oil-based finish (like Danish Oil rather than the Minwax Tung Oil or BC Tru Oil) and apply it with really high-grit sanding pads, you can get it slick by burnishing the wood while working in a finish that doesn't build much. Feels like wood, doesn't stick or gloss up much, but gets super smooth.

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby VoxNihili » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:12 pm

I dunno...i grew up in the big hair, flashy, odd-shape era of rock guitar. I dig the modern take...a bloodsplatter paint job will be sick!

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:03 pm

8-string version made for Dean Lamb. Nearly 11.5 lbs.
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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby helldorado » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:55 pm

spudmunkey wrote:8-string version made for Dean Lamb. Nearly 11.5 lbs.


Hmmm... keep the counter weight and bitch about total weight, or take it out to save a pound and bitch about neck dive. :lol:

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When did guitarists become so prissy always complaining about guitar weight and neck dive and all the other stuff? :lol:

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:26 pm

This one gives you an additional option: ditch both weights and save 2.74 lbs. :lol:

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby helldorado » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:58 am

spudmunkey wrote:This one gives you an additional option: ditch both weights and save 2.74 lbs. :lol:


They put 2 counter weights in the 8 string? :shock:

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:01 am

helldorado wrote:
spudmunkey wrote:This one gives you an additional option: ditch both weights and save 2.74 lbs. :lol:


They put 2 counter weights in the 8 string? :shock:
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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby helldorado » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:11 am

spudmunkey wrote:FB_IMG_1623193252830.jpg


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

These smaller bodies Jeff favors create more problems than they solve sometimes.

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:15 am

It probably just comes down to what will fit in their cases, honestly. :think:

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Re: New Explorer-ish model, Hyperdrive

Postby helldorado » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:48 am

spudmunkey wrote:It probably just comes down to what will fit in their cases, honestly. :think:


Considering the length and width of the Ultra V / V220, as the V220 does cover a lot of the same physical dimensions a traditional Explorer does, they could've made the Hyperdrive larger if they were willing to use the same hardshell case they use for thoe.

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It always struck me as odd, because the Hyperdrive is the only guitar that needs a counterweight.

What I think it really came down to, since the Hyperdrive is neck-through, to make the body larger, would've required a longer neck blank than they wanted to use. You can see how the Hyperdrive and V220 are really close in overall neck blank length, but the V220 is longer and wider than the Hyperdrive. The V220 balances nicely, and you can even play it in classical position.

Basically, if you take the top horn of the V220, and follow that line, chopping off the entire lower horn, and flip the front horns, you have the basic layout of a Hyperdrive.

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To make the Hyperdrive in a size similar to the V220 it would just be more expensive overall, requiring larger tops and blanks. I think they would be able to to manage it since they can do full size neck-through basses, but maybe the cost wasn't worth it, and I think Jeff favors more compact designs in general. And he probably didn't want to do a bolt-on or set neck design to do a fuller body either.
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