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Help identifying guitar

Postby musicgoround » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:04 pm

I bought a very nice neck through guitar from an area pawn shop but have no idea what the model is. The only ID is Carvin on the headstock. I believe it to be a DC series, but any help would be appreciated!
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Re: Help identifying guitar

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:53 pm

Due to that headstock and logo combination, I believe that puts it at post 2004, which jives with the post 1999 3-screw pickups. It could really be from any time between 2004 and about 2013 when they started using their own locking tuners rather than the matte finished Spezels on your example, or 2014, when they stopped being able to offer the active system.

That would make it a DC127 with the active electronics upgrade (the pickups are still passive). If the guitar has two outputs, it also has the acoustic/piezo system add-on, but it *looks* like it only has one, at least from the angles if these photos.

DC127T (T=Wilkinson Trem), pearl blue paint in gloss, standard ebony fretboard, standard dot inlays in either abalone or mother of pearl...they kinda look more like MOP in these photos in contrast with the abalone logo. Black hardware.

What we can't tell from these photos:
Body wood (standard in this time was alder)
Neck wood (standard was maple)
Neck finish (standard with a glossy and painted body was a matching neck)
Fretboard radius (standard was...16" I think in the early 2000s then changed to 14" either in the late 2000s or early 2010s. Somebody correct me on that)
Fret size (medium jumbo was thr standard)
Fret material (nickel alloy was standard, stainless is the standard today but was optional then).

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Re: Help identifying guitar

Postby musicgoround » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:07 pm

Thank you spudmonkey! BTW the guitar has two output jacks, although I think it is wired for stereo output rather than a piezo. I also have problems because the second jack is broken (I created a second posting for that). The jack has the threaded collar broken off.

Thanks again,
Dan

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Re: Help identifying guitar

Postby spudmunkey » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:24 pm

musicgoround wrote:Thank you spudmonkey! BTW the guitar has two output jacks, although I think it is wired for stereo output rather than a piezo. I also have problems because the second jack is broken (I created a second posting for that). The jack has the threaded collar broken off.

Thanks again,
Dan


I saw that other post, but didn't have an answer for you...but guitars from this age weren't generally wired up like their older stereo guitars, and looking at the photo you posted that shows the bridge the most clearly, the saddles do look like they have piezo element inserts. :think:

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Re: Help identifying guitar

Postby musicgoround » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:41 pm

Hey spudmunkey,
Thanks again! I double checked and sure enough, have the wiring for piezo pickups.
If they are piezos, then how do the knobs & switches work? I think I understand the coil split switches and phase switch. Is the rearmost knob a blend between standard & piezo? The second output jack for piezo sound?


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Re: Help identifying guitar

Postby spudmunkey » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:05 pm

musicgoround wrote:Hey spudmunkey,
Thanks again! I double checked and sure enough, have the wiring for piezo pickups.
If they are piezos, then how do the knobs & switches work? I think I understand the coil split switches and phase switch. Is the rearmost knob a blend between standard & piezo? The second output jack for piezo sound?


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Here you go!
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A note about the jacks: One will be a blended signal. The other won't output anything unless there's a cable in both. So essentially there isn't a "piezo only" jack. There's a "blended" output, and then when you plug in a 2nd cable, the piezo signal is split off to this 2nd jack. I believe the "upper" jack (when you're holding the guitar in playing position) is the blended output, so you'd use that most of the time, and only use the bottom one when you're meaning to have the two signals going to two different signal paths.

If you're ONLY planning on using the piezo tone, you'd still use the blended output jack, but you just turn the blend knob all the way to the piezo side.

edit: Here's another version of the same control layout that the AE185 used to have.:
https://www.kieselguitars.com/manuals/AE185_Fishman.pdf

Note that like all Carvins/Kiesels with active electronics, make sure to unplug them between uses to avoid draining the battery.

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Re: Help identifying guitar

Postby musicgoround » Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:56 pm

Spudmunkey,

Wow! Thanks again for the info. This is exactly what I needed.

Thanks again!

Dan


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